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发表于 2004-6-16 19:58:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用tianwan在2004-6-16 16:36:00的发言:

making the state’s economy far more diversified than it was是一个tricky ETS style。


1,make sth adj实际上是一个make + 宾语+宾补,宾语和宾补就是 宾语 be 宾补。这个比较中的it是economy,相当于 the economy is far more diversified than it was, 比较的还是这个结构里的主语。

-解释的强!

关于楼主的第一题中C选项的排除问题,偶最近有这样一个发现,请大家看看对不对:

即as great as sth. ,or greater than,中黑体的部分必须前后用逗号隔开,作为插入修饰成分。依据是OG149。

149. Last year, land values in most parts of the pinelands rose almost so fast, and in some parts even faster than what they did outside the pinelands.

(A) so fast, and in some parts even faster than what they did
(B) so fast, and in some parts even faster than, those
(C) as fast, and in some parts even faster than, those
(D) as fast as, and in some parts even faster than, thoseD
(E) as fast as, and in some parts even faster than what they did


The properly completed sentence here must (1) use the proper form of the comparative conjunction, as fast as; (2) enclose the parenthetical statement and... even faster than in commas; and (3) preserve parallel structure, clarity of reference, and economy by using those to substitute for land values in the completed comparison. D, the best choice, does all these things correctly. A and B use so unidiomatically in place of as. A and E omit the comma needed after than and use the confusing and unparallel what they did instead of those. C omits the second as needed in the comparative conjunction as fast as.

12#
发表于 2004-6-16 22:03:00 | 只看该作者

More often than not LES puts forward something wonderful for us. Thank you very much!

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 楼主| 发表于 2004-6-16 22:04:00 | 只看该作者

LES MM是个很细心的人。

先说as great as, or greater than, 我也发现它作为正确答案出现或在查阅辞典时总是带有一对commas的,只是个人感觉commas的有无没关系不大,不料恰恰相反,这一对commas决定了它的正确性,因为要表达的是parenthetical 的东东。

再说“making the state’s economy far more diversified than it was是一个tricky ETS style。  

1,make sth adj实际上是一个make + 宾语+宾补,宾语和宾补就是 宾语 be 宾补。这个比较中的it是economy,相当于 the economy is far more diversified than it was, 比较的还是这个结构里的主语。

-解释的强!

我觉得这个解释还是牵强,如果不嫌麻烦,我们再看一题OG266

266. In a recent poll, 86 percent of the public favored a Clean Air Act as strong or stronger than the present act.

(A) a Clean Air Act as strong or stronger than

(B) a Clean Air Act that is stronger, or at least so strong as,

(C) at least as strong a Clean Air Act as is

(D) a Clean Air Act as strong or stronger than is

(E) a Clean Air Act at least as strong as

该题的正确答案是E,相信大家都不会有疑问。如果按commas中的解释“相当于 the economy is far more diversified than it was”该题的比较也可以还原成a Clean Air Act is at least as strong as the present act is,其实任何的比较结构,比较对象都是比较结构的逻辑主语。我以前也一直认为:比较的对象是比较所在句中的主语时可以补出助动词,但碰到的题多了,发现并不尽然,我也希望通过讨论把这件事彻底搞清楚。

个人认为:比较对象是否是所在句中的主语的确是助动词补出与否的判据,但不全,还应该加一条:在比较对象不是所在句的主语时,比较结构前后两段如果比较的是同一个事物的不同特性则要助动词补出,如economy这题;若本来比较的对象就是两个不同的事物,则不需要,如OG266。看下面三个最简单的句子:

Tom is as rich as Jim is.   这是助动词的尽量补出,其实没有这个is也行,如我们碰到的大多数题。

I have a friend tom as rich as Jim.  这是不要补出助动词,否则反而redundant,同OG266

I have a friend tom as rich as he was 10 years ago. 这是必须补出,而不论比较对象是所在句(或所在结构的)主语还是宾语。同economy这题。

说了这么多,请大家指正,共同讨论提高,谢谢!

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发表于 2004-6-17 01:46:00 | 只看该作者

Probably it is wrong to get the conclusion by analogy between the 2 divergent structure.

OG266,“favor”,which can only construct " v+o", is different from “make”,which can construct "v+o+c". v is predicate, o is object,  c is complement

“a Clean Air Act at least as strong as”: "at least as strong as" is an attribute, modifying Act, while  “the state’s economy far more diversified”:“far more diversified”is a complement.

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 楼主| 发表于 2004-6-17 20:30:00 | 只看该作者

谢谢tianwan版主,这题讨论到这个深度应该够用了,我有新贴要请教,请帮我看看。

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发表于 2004-7-31 19:33:00 | 只看该作者

绝对精华贴

17#
发表于 2004-10-4 19:48:00 | 只看该作者
LES真厉害. 牛.
18#
发表于 2006-6-22 19:34:00 | 只看该作者

NN們分析的真好!

可是話說回來,這題的比較對象到底是resistance還是penalty?

還有, 放在句尾的greater 可不可以修飾句首的 resistance?


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发表于 2006-6-26 10:38:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用chwayne在2004-6-15 20:22:00的发言:

请教大全935题 和OG 17题

935Wind resistance created by opening windows while driving results in a fuel penalty as great or greater than is incurred by using air conditioning.

(A) as great or greater than is incurred by using air conditioning

(B) that is as great or greater than is incurred using air conditioning

(C) as great as or greater than that of using air conditioning

(D) at least as great as air conditioning’s

(E) at least as great as that incurred by using air conditioning

本题给出的答案是E,

ding, again....

NN們在前面分析的真好!

可是話說回來,這題的比較對象到底是resistance還是penalty?

還有, 放在句尾的greater 可不可以修飾句首的 resistance?

20#
发表于 2006-6-27 18:34:00 | 只看该作者

ding...

at least as great as修飾誰?

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