求问：prep187，（more than 后面啥事要补出主谓）跪求NN解答。。。

aeoluseros

根据我自己曾经的总结就是：
比较级...than 直接跟 now (before) 是会有歧义的，也就是比较对象会被认为是直接与 “now”或“before”比较
但是 比较级...than +  介词短语 是可以的， 因为其实是 比较级...than (it be) +  介词短语， 符合比较结构的省略形式，比较对象的概念还是对等的

-- by 会员 wudiyeah (2011/4/19 1:06:02)

或许那是表象，wudiyeah再看看，或者弄个题来咱看看。

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mongmong

og 12 上两题也是同样的道理：

OG 85:
alt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization “that flourished at the same time as the civilizations” in the Nile Delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flurished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did (A)
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

请问这里谓语省略是因为都是flourished？因为时态一致？

89:

Dirt roads may evoke the bucolic simplicity of another century, but financially strained townships point out that “dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads”.
(A) dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads
(B) dirt roads cost twice as much to maintain as paved roads do
(C) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as paved roads do
(D) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as it does for paved roads (B)
(E) to maintain dirt roads costs twice as much as for paved roads

那么这里补出do是为了什么？

另外，Verbal 2nd 70题又怎么解释？一个人看实在是头大：

The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with “extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than” when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970.
正确答案就是原文。

还有，
“而在Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than …中， 不仅仅Only seven people，后面的this century have been killed by the great white shark也都在比较对象里面，所以后文不能用those killed by bee stings，而应该用平行的结构than have been killed。”
平行结构里 为何主语不补出？

mongmong

prep#2 --187
187
To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers i（have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic） determinants of fertility.
答案为D.would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic
我在网上查看的几乎全是说：“原句是a great deal 和now在比较，所以要加they do”
还有大全的10也是：
大全10. A large rise in the number of housing starts in the coming year should boost new construction dollars by several billion dollars, making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago.
(A) making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(B) and make the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(C) making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than it was five years ago
(D) to make the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(E) in making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than it as five years ago
Key: C
（大全10也是补出了主谓）
这两题，我现在看来并不是因为“原句是a great deal 和now在比较，所以要加they do”：
第一题比较的是demographers和they的属性，因为时态的变化，所以前后都需要补出谓语动词，而因为谓语动词的补出，主语也必须要补出。（参见比较之庖丁解牛）
第二题的比较是construction industry’s economic health在不同年份的属性，所以than后面可以用it was，也可以用that，或者可以不补出。但是因为five years ago前面并没有介词，所以如果不补出，读者很容易认为是construction industry’s economic health和five years ago的比较。换句话说就是，如果后面是in five years ago，那么就可以不补出。 -->  这个想法是来自于a comprehensive grammar of english里面对零关系分句的解释（即时间状语在没有补出介词的时候，会给读者造成confusion--是主语/宾语，还是状语？）。

但是我做到prep#2 197的时候就大大的郁闷了。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
Soaring television costs accounted for more than half the spending in the presidential campaign of 1992, a greater proportion than it was in any previous election.
A. a greater proportion than it was
B. a greater proportion than
C. a greater proportion than they have been
D. which is greater than was so
E. which is greater than it has been
（虽然别的选项我也知道哪里不对，但是它的答案是B，这个答案是在说明前两道题的答案选A也是对的！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！）
这里a greater proportion than后面依旧是可以补出it had been，that或着不补出，in any previous election已经明确是介词短语，不给使读者产生” a greater proportion”和“in any previous election”比较的歧义，所以就不需要补出了。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/4/17 22:19:09)

og 12 上两题也是同样的道理：

OG 85:
alt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile Delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flurished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did (A)
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

请问这里谓语省略是因为都是flourished？因为时态一致？

89:

Dirt roads may evoke the bucolic simplicity of another century, but financially strained townships point out that dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads.
(A) dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads
(B) dirt roads cost twice as much to maintain as paved roads do
(C) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as paved roads do
(D) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as it does for paved roads (B)
(E) to maintain dirt roads costs twice as much as for paved roads

那么这里补出do是为了什么？

另外，Verbal 2nd 70题又怎么解释？一个人看实在是头大：

The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970.
正确答案就是原文。

还有，
“而在Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than …中， 不仅仅Only seven people，后面的this century have been killed by the great white shark也都在比较对象里面，所以后文不能用those killed by bee stings，而应该用平行的结构than have been killed。”
平行结构里 为何主语不补出？

mongmong

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aeoluseros

og 12 上两题也是同样的道理：

OG 85:
alt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization “that flourished at the same time as the civilizations” in the Nile Delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flurished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did (A)
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

请问这里谓语省略是因为都是flourished？因为时态一致？

89:

Dirt roads may evoke the bucolic simplicity of another century, but financially strained townships point out that “dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads”.
(A) dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads
(B) dirt roads cost twice as much to maintain as paved roads do
(C) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as paved roads do
(D) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as it does for paved roads (B)
(E) to maintain dirt roads costs twice as much as for paved roads

那么这里补出do是为了什么？

另外，Verbal 2nd 70题又怎么解释？一个人看实在是头大：

The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with “extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than” when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970.
正确答案就是原文。

还有，
“而在Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than …中， 不仅仅Only seven people，后面的this century have been killed by the great white shark也都在比较对象里面，所以后文不能用those killed by bee stings，而应该用平行的结构than have been killed。”
平行结构里 为何主语不补出？

-- by 会员 mongmong (2011/5/22 14:25:26)

1. at the same time as the civilizations整个都是一个时间状语修饰flurished，不需要加flurished。
2. do可以省，也可以不省。do不可以省，因为比较的是cost，而不是两种roads。
3. 如果表语是比较成分，那么可以看作仅仅是部分概念的比较，在此为主语比较。
3. than、as都可以兼职做关系代词。

mongmong

看下面一个哈，那个更清楚，谢谢～～

mongmong

og 12 上两题也是同样的道理：
OG 85:
alt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo -Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization “that flourished at the same time as the civilizations” in the Nile Delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flurished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did (A)
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

请问这里谓语省略是因为都是flourished？因为时态一致？

89:
Dirt roads may evoke the bucolic simplicity of another century, but financially strained townships point out that “dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads”.
(A) dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads
(B) dirt roads cost twice as much to maintain as paved roads do
(C) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as paved roads do
(D) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as it does for paved roads (B)
(E) to maintain dirt roads costs twice as much as for paved roads

那么这里补出do是为了什么？

另外，Verbal 2nd 70题又怎么解释？一个人看实在是头大：

The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with “extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than” when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970.
正确答案就是原文。

还有，
“而在Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than …中， 不仅仅Only seven people，后面的this century have been killed by the great white shark也都在比较对象里面，所以后文不能用those killed by bee stings，而应该用平行的结构than have been killed。”
平行结构里 为何主语不补出？

-- by 会员 mongmong (2011/5/22 14:25:26)

1. at the same time as the civilizations整个都是一个时间状语修饰flurished，不需要加flurished。
2. do可以省，也可以不省。
3. 如果表语是比较成分，那么可以看作仅仅是部分概念的比较，在此为主语比较。
3. than、as都可以兼职做关系代词。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/5/23 7:05:42)

prep#2 --187
187
To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers i（have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic） determinants of fertility.
答案为D.would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic
我在网上查看的几乎全是说：“原句是a great deal 和now在比较，所以要加they do”
还有大全的10也是：
大全10. A large rise in the number of housing starts in the coming year should boost new construction dollars by several billion dollars, making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago.
(A) making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(B) and make the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(C) making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than it was five years ago
(D) to make the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than five years ago
(E) in making the construction industry’s economic health much more robust than it as five years ago
Key: C
（大全10也是补出了主谓）
这两题，我现在看来并不是因为“原句是a great deal 和now在比较，所以要加they do”：
第一题比较的是demographers和they的属性，因为时态的变化，所以前后都需要补出谓语动词，而因为谓语动词的补出，主语也必须要补出。（参见比较之庖丁解牛）
第二题的比较是construction industry’s economic health在不同年份的属性，所以than后面可以用it was，也可以用that，或者可以不补出。但是因为five years ago前面并没有介词，所以如果不补出，读者很容易认为是construction industry’s economic health和five years ago的比较。换句话说就是，如果后面是in five years ago，那么就可以不补出。 -->  这个想法是来自于a comprehensive grammar of english里面对零关系分句的解释（即时间状语在没有补出介词的时候，会给读者造成confusion--是主语/宾语，还是状语？）。

但是我做到prep#2 197的时候就大大的郁闷了。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。
Soaring television costs accounted for more than half the spending in the presidential campaign of 1992, a greater proportion than it was in any previous election.
A. a greater proportion than it was
B. a greater proportion than
C. a greater proportion than they have been
D. which is greater than was so
E. which is greater than it has been
（虽然别的选项我也知道哪里不对，但是它的答案是B，这个答案是在说明前两道题的答案选A也是对的！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！）
这里a greater proportion than后面依旧是可以补出it had been，that或着不补出，in any previous election已经明确是介词短语，不给使读者产生” a greater proportion”和“in any previous election”比较的歧义，所以就不需要补出了。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/4/17 22:19:09)

og 12 上两题也是同样的道理：

OG 85:
alt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile Delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

(A) that flurished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did (A)
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

请问这里谓语省略是因为都是flourished？因为时态一致？
1. at the same time as the civilizations整个都是一个时间状语修饰flurished，不需要加flurished。这里不是很理解哦，那为啥因为是状语部分修饰flourished,后面的那个civilization就不能加flourished or did?

89:
Dirt roads may evoke the bucolic simplicity of another century, but financially strained townships point out that dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads.
(A) dirt roads cost twice as much as maintaining paved roads
(B) dirt roads cost twice as much to maintain as paved roads do
(C) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as paved roads do
(D) maintaining dirt roads costs twice as much as it does for paved roads (B)
(E) to maintain dirt roads costs twice as much as for paved roads
那么这里补出do是为了什么？
2. do可以省，也可以不省。
好的，知道了！可是为了简洁，也不引起歧义的时候不是应该从简省略吗？

另外，Verbal 2nd 70题又怎么解释？一个人看实在是头大：
The gyrfalcon, an Arctic bird of prey, has survived a close brush with extinction; its numbers are now five times greater than when the use of DDT was sharply restricted in the early 1970.
正确答案就是原文。
3. 如果表语是比较成分，那么可以看作仅仅是部分概念的比较，在此为主语比较。
请问和你举的这个例子说的是一个意思吗？
“第二题的比较是construction industry’s economic health在不同年份的属性，所以than后面可以用it was，也可以用that，或者可以不补出。但是因为five years ago前面并没有介词，所以如果不补出，读者很容易认为是construction industry’s economic health和five years ago的比较。换句话说就是，如果后面是in five years ago，那么就可以不补出。”

还有，
“而在Only seven people this century have been killed by the great white shark, the man-eater of the movies—fewer than …中， 不仅仅Only seven people，后面的this century have been killed by the great white shark也都在比较对象里面，所以后文不能用those killed by bee stings，而应该用平行的结构than have been killed。”
平行结构里 为何主语不补出？
3. than、as都可以兼职做关系代词。
嗯，真难，我记不住。所以好吧可以做关系代词，那么如果主语补出了可以吗？错吗？是不是下面这个例子的选项E就是你说的“than、as都可以兼职做关系代词”
85. According to a study by the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, companies in the
United States are providing job training and general
education for nearly eight million people, about
equivalent to the enrollment of the nation's four-year
colleges and universities.
(A) equivalent to the enrollment of
(B) the equivalent of those enrolled in
(C) equal to those who are enrolled in
(D) as many as the enrollment of (E)
(E) as many as are enrolled in

那么E可以改写成以下哪种？1. as many as people who are enrolled in
2. as many as who are enrolled in
3. as many as people enrolled in

另外，verbal 2nd的98题也很费解：
98. Although Napoleon's army entered Russia with far more supplies than they had in their previous
campaigns, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.
(A) they had intheir previous campaigns,
(B) their previous campaigns had had,
(C) they had for any previous campaign,
(D) in their previous campaigns, (E)
(E) for any previous campaign,
这里又是什么意思？


还有一问：主谓比较，补出动词的时候，动词需要紧跟那个比较的词（比如than），还是放在句末也可以，这里有啥讲究木？

不知道我问的问题对不对哎哎        

谢谢您！！！

mongmong

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