CANADA OR US???

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楼主的说话方式很象篱笆女～

阿狸猪

还是要看你的毕业后的就业和生活目标的。

说句不一定好听的话，LZ的学校都对你将来的就业没有实际意义上的帮助，所以念这个档次的MBA可能对职业发展本身帮助并不大。

如果你想换个移民身份，那建议去加拿大。移民容易，你有CGA的执照，找个会计工作没问题。还是那句话，指望你的MBA来帮助你就业几乎没有实际意义，反倒是你的CGA可能对你在加拿大找工作比较有帮助。

如果你只是想拿移民身份的话，那还不如直接移民了，读u of alberta的mba真没意义。Alberta不是你会喜欢生活的地方。除非是很好的学校，不然要出去一定要去大城市，机会都在那里，尤其是学校名字本身不强，可能外地人对他认可型都没有的时候，更要去大城市。

没有想打击LZ的意思，只是觉得不需要走的弯路不要走，不需要浪费的时间不要浪费。

-- by 会员 choatezhang2001 (2011/1/28 12:53:26)

恩 有点意思哇
读书么只是一种媒介 你也知道现在技术移民626新政以后已经没有会计了 所以 没办法只能读书了
我一个女孩子 也不可能投资移民
所以 其实在学校上不是特别care 只是想不明白到底去哪里
我在加拿大待过一年 alberta这地方的确无聊了点 不过若真要去alberta 也非u of A莫属了  总不可能去calgary吧
中国人总是动不动就沃顿啦什么的
上海也不只是复旦出来才能找到好工作
关键还是要看个人的
温哥华现在中国人多的连找个工作都难
敢问你现在的status？如果也是旅外多年 那你的话 我绝对是要参考滴
谢谢哦~~~我觉得你说的还是有点道理的 参考下 嘿嘿

-- by 会员 阿狸猪 (2011/1/28 16:01:35)

我在加拿大生活有9年，我说得都是我自己的看法。你要去alberta，calgary比edmonton好，无论是工作还是生活 - 当然，两个都不是理想的环境。我同意你说的“关键还是要看个人”，但也就是基于这样的原因，我认为读三流的mba很多并不是学习本身的原因，而是基于移民之类的原因。如果是这样的话，那就是加拿大比较合算了。要工作什么的，我觉得还是在国内你会觉得比较得心应手点。

去美国是机会多，钱多，但是除了钱以外，你会发现既然你赚不到大钱，那又为何不好好享受生活呢？折腾不是不好，只是不要没有方向的折腾。

-- by 会员 choatezhang2001 (2011/1/29 7:29:01)

恩 你有句话说对了
其实我更看重能否有PR
至于学校 不要太差就OK了
当然咯 这是我的底线
还没到最后关头 我得再想想嘿~~
只不过我这次脑抽 申了美国学校 所以开始纠结了
如果去UW读accouting
等于一切从头来过啊。。哎。

阿狸猪

maxdaddy

UA pros:

1. Lower provincial income tax if you income is high. It's a 10% flat rate if I remember correctly. It is lower than some of the states such as California.

2. Zero provincial sales tax. You pay only 5%GST in Alberta compared to people in other privinces (Ontario has a 13% HST). This is also lower than some states such as Michigan and NY.

3. If you buy a residential property in Alberta and remain residency status for at least two years, the AB goverment will guarantee the property value, which means, after two years, if you sell your preoperty and its value drops to below the original price you paid for it, the government will make up for the difference.

4. The UA name is big in Alberta, so you can find a job there without much trouble if you are not too picky, especially in the energy sector. Unlike American energy companies who hire only US citizen and green card holders, Canadian energy companies do hire international student.

5. Cad$ is basically at parity with US$ for the last several years and have been trading above US$ recently. The lower Canadian salary is so last century if you factor in the exchange rate, however, it's true that living expense in Canada is quite high.

Cons:

1. It will be tough tough to find a job in Ontario where most of the good jobs are located. You will need to compete against graduates from Ivey, Rotman, Schulich, Queens and even McGill.

2. Life in Toronto is good but can be quite boring, not to mention Alberta.

3. Terrible weather. I went to Alberta last August and it snowed! It can snow every month in Alberta.

4. Skyrocketed residential property price. Housing prices in Vancouver and Calgary already double that in Toronto and Montreal. It's very tough for a fresh MBA grad to buy a property in Calgary.

greekhero

要看楼主怎么想了,如果想在国外生活的话,那么绿卡方面的确是加拿大好拿很多,美国不行了.

阿狸猪

UA pros:

1. Lower provincial income tax if you income is high. It's a 10% flat rate if I remember correctly. It is lower than some of the states such as California.

2. Zero provincial sales tax. You pay only 5%GST in Alberta compared to people in other privinces (Ontario has a 13% HST). This is also lower than some states such as Michigan and NY.

3. If you buy a residential property in Alberta and remain residency status for at least two years, the AB goverment will guarantee the property value, which means, after two years, if you sell your preoperty and its value drops to below the original price you paid for it, the government will make up for the difference.

4. The UA name is big in Alberta, so you can find a job there without much trouble if you are not too picky, especially in the energy sector. Unlike American energy companies who hire only US citizen and green card holders, Canadian energy companies do hire international student.

5. Cad$ is basically at parity with US$ for the last several years and have been trading above US$ recently. The lower Canadian salary is so last century if you factor in the exchange rate, however, it's true that living expense in Canada is quite high.

Cons:

1. It will be tough tough to find a job in Ontario where most of the good jobs are located. You will need to compete against graduates from Ivey, Rotman, Schulich, Queens and even McGill.

2. Life in Toronto is good but can be quite boring, not to mention Alberta.

3. Terrible weather. I went to Alberta last August and it snowed! It can snow every month in Alberta.

4. Skyrocketed residential property price. Housing prices in Vancouver and Calgary already double that in Toronto and Montreal. It's very tough for a fresh MBA grad to buy a property in Calgary.

-- by 会员 maxdaddy (2011/2/6 2:32:17)

I appreciate your help so much. Your analysis is what I want comparing to other ones only focus on whether the school I choose is good or not.
Your answer is quite useful.
I also caught 'August snow' in Calgary several years ago...eh..eh..
Keep in touch.~~~

阿狸猪

要看楼主怎么想了,如果想在国外生活的话,那么绿卡方面的确是加拿大好拿很多,美国不行了.

-- by 会员 greekhero (2011/2/6 15:02:13)

恩对的 你一语中的呢 所以我之前一直想去加拿大的
但是很多人都说美国好 我不知道到底怎么好 所以才发这个贴集思广益啦

曲宁儿

加拿大适合居住和移民，是个多元化国家。美国的包容性还是没有加拿大强，而且你也知道，绿卡不好拿。 先去了加拿大，以后想去美国也方便啊~

bm_mxy

我认识不少从事accounting的前辈都顺利移民加拿大，而且找到了不错的工作，加拿大移民真的比美国容易的多，毕业后好像能自动获得一年的工作签证；技术移民我记得是三个条件符合一个就行：38种职业、在加拿大读书至少一年以上、有加拿大企业的工作offer（当然这是去年上半年的情况，现在不是很清楚了好长时间没关注过了），如果lz的目标是毕业后能留下肯定首选加拿大。美国现在除非顶级MBA否则留下非常困难，很多企业根本不招国际学生，不知两年后是否会有所好转……

阿狸猪

我认识不少从事accounting的前辈都顺利移民加拿大，而且找到了不错的工作，加拿大移民真的比美国容易的多，毕业后好像能自动获得一年的工作签证；技术移民我记得是三个条件符合一个就行：38种职业、在加拿大读书至少一年以上、有加拿大企业的工作offer（当然这是去年上半年的情况，现在不是很清楚了好长时间没关注过了），如果lz的目标是毕业后能留下肯定首选加拿大。美国现在除非顶级MBA否则留下非常困难，很多企业根本不招国际学生，不知两年后是否会有所好转……

-- by 会员 bm_mxy (2011/2/12 16:04:12)

去年下半年以后符合技术移民的职业大幅减缩呃 已经没有accountant了 所以我没办法 只好选择出去读书啦
本来就想申请加拿大学校的 但老爸老妈总是说美国比加拿大好 当然他们说的好 我也持保留意见的呃
但是本着爸妈吃盐比我吃饭还多 所以有点犹豫啊 不知道美国的吸引力到底在哪里
他们会觉得美国生活节奏快 机会多 加拿大找工作的机会少 所以似乎美国更好发展
不过 美国现在绿卡还真难呢~~~