Any Question about University of Notre Dame?

mimi8908

谢LZ的解答~我现在也拿到了offer，letter上说可以上网校补federal tax，当然也听说过大家去了再补的~相比较而言你推荐哪种呢？多谢

-- by 会员 kfairy (2011/1/30 21:49:07)

federal tax在美国会计里面还是很重要的，也是很基础的 我建议还是到了学校以后和本科一起上课系统的学一遍比较好，也不用再上网课补，一般online的课都学不到什么东西。。。都是给人混学分的

ericgale2001

也许nd在国内不出名，但是在美国是很不错的。。。再说了，也是常春藤盟校吧。。。就业率那也是相当的不错了。。。所以本人现在一点不后悔当时拒了UM

mimi8908

请问有什么学生社团推荐参加吗？
另外，study abroad program可以去欧洲和南美，有中国学生去吗？

-- by 会员 andiwu (2011/1/30 22:39:10)

一般msa参加的有MSAA（专门给msa学生的）还有Beta Alpha Psi (给全部会计学生的）这两个是会计学生经常参加的。而且就1年平时事情比较多，参加社团活动的很少。

有中国学生去，不过一般都是MBA的，msa的中国学生目前没有去的。每年申请人数比较多，要抽签决定谁去，而且费用很高，例如去中国的10天左右要1000+美金，而且还要自己付机票钱。。。一般大家那个时间也都是msa忙着找工作的时候，所以没人去。。。

mimi8908

也许nd在国内不出名，但是在美国是很不错的。。。再说了，也是常春藤盟校吧。。。就业率那也是相当的不错了。。。所以本人现在一点不后悔当时拒了UM

-- by 会员 ericgale2001 (2011/1/31 7:18:15)

强烈同意 听说在国内名气不大的原因是校友回国的比较少，基本上都留在美国了

worrier

ND不是常春藤盟校!! However, the accounting program is very strong.  MBA, Engineering, and Law  on the other hand, are kind of ordinary!!  I just saw the most recent (2010) PAR ranking!!  Both undergrad and MSA of Notre Dame were ranked 4th. (Texas, Illinois and BYU are the top 3, different orders; USC dropped out of top 5)

I talked to a professor lately.  He said the "pure international" students (e.g., directly from China without a degree in US) were next to impossible to find a job for the last couple of years.  The main reason, other than the general economy, is that those students do not have strong activities/leadership abilities listed on the vita and were not even interviewed by the Big Four.  This is something for you, the future Fighting Irish, to consider and work on.

mimi8908

ND不是常春藤盟校!! However, the accounting program is very strong.  MBA, Engineering, and Law  on the other hand, are kind of ordinary!!  I just saw the most recent (2010) PAR ranking!!  Both undergrad and MSA of Notre Dame were ranked 4th. (Texas, Illinois and BYU are the top 3, different orders; USC dropped out of top 5)

I talked to a professor lately.  He said the "pure international" students (e.g., directly from China without a degree in US) were next to impossible to find a job for the last couple of years.  The main reason, other than the general economy, is that those students do not have strong activities/leadership abilities listed on the vita and were not even interviewed by the Big Four.  This is something for you, the future Fighting Irish, to consider and work on.

-- by 会员 worrier (2011/1/31 12:00:36)

Pure International Student不论在哪个学校找工作都是很艰难的，不过这届msa有个所谓的pure international student找到了美国四大的工作。。。大环境很重要，我觉得个人背景更重要。ND已经把pure international student 比例压到很低了，只有不到5%。每个收到offer和奖学金的学生背后都有很多的考虑因素，包括找到工作的概率。。。

本人对所谓的排名不是很感冒 不还是个sample，statistical error的成分和其中的水分可想而知 我觉得the most important thing is not where you go, is what you will do. 三流学校一样可以出来亿万富翁，哈佛出来的也有可能成为社会败类。当然选校问题要慎重考虑！！

hellooasis

ND不是常春藤盟校!! However, the accounting program is very strong.  MBA, Engineering, and Law  on the other hand, are kind of ordinary!!  I just saw the most recent (2010) PAR ranking!!  Both undergrad and MSA of Notre Dame were ranked 4th. (Texas, Illinois and BYU are the top 3, different orders; USC dropped out of top 5)

I talked to a professor lately.  He said the "pure international" students (e.g., directly from China without a degree in US) were next to impossible to find a job for the last couple of years.  The main reason, other than the general economy, is that those students do not have strong activities/leadership abilities listed on the vita and were not even interviewed by the Big Four.  This is something for you, the future Fighting Irish, to consider and work on.

-- by 会员 worrier (2011/1/31 12:00:36)

请问这个同学的professor是哪个学校的？

gohawks

现在能sponsor h1b的还招会计的公司个人所知也就那么几个，四大+几个大型的corporation+几个insurance company . 我在乡下，自己知道的大概就10-12家。
老多大银行（wellsfargo,for example)都不招了。。。别跟我说gold sachs这几个了，这几个只要你牛x，啥专业都能招。一般msa毕业能招到工作的大多都是美国big 4了吧，还都是集中在nyc,boston这一带的。
一家之言。

螃蜞

第一百楼！！祈祷明天ND面试要顺利啊！！！

mimi8908

现在能sponsor h1b的还招会计的公司个人所知也就那么几个，四大+几个大型的corporation+几个insurance company . 我在乡下，自己知道的大概就10-12家。
老多大银行（wellsfargo,for example)都不招了。。。别跟我说gold sachs这几个了，这几个只要你牛x，啥专业都能招。一般msa毕业能招到工作的大多都是美国big 4了吧，还都是集中在nyc,boston这一带的。
一家之言。

-- by 会员 gohawks (2011/1/31 12:52:25)

现在能sponsor的确实比较少，大多MSA都是去Big 4的，ND的MSA（美国+中国学生）主要集中在芝加哥和纽约地带比较多，这届目前没有听说去boston的。 其他公司也可以sponsor的，比如这届有个美国学生去了一个corporation 他们就可以sponsor 另外有一个中国学生去了一家在美国的英国大银行 所以能去什么样的公司要看自己的background 并不是绝对的