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发表于 2010-5-3 23:49:48 | 只看该作者
我自己觉得 many of them 还是many of whom,要从以下几方面出发
1. many of them 和many of whom/which 是可以互换的,两者皆没有错误。
区别在于many of them后面不能出现谓语动词,而many of whom/which之后必须有谓语才能构成完整的定语从句。
2.为什么出题者喜欢用many of them而不是many of whom/which?
我个人总结的原因:
a. them避免了人还是物的用词选择问题。

例如这道题
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-456793-1-1.html

b. them 不需要就近而which/whom有比较严格的就近要求。
c. them没有谓语,避免了时态的可能错误,也更加简洁。

所以,遇到many of them 还是many of whom/which的题目,从三方面入手:人还是物,就近关系有无出错,还有时态对不对
-- by 会员 反衬 (2010/5/3 23:10:53)




呵呵 nn不要嫌我烦
想向nn求证一下
就是我上面用黄色标出来的那句话是不是说的太绝对了
many of whom后面是必须要加谓语的
但是many of them是不是要看情况啊
比如说OG12-43
43. Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britainbut only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million,
and many
(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain’s land area, but in Laos with a population of only
four million people, many of them

(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of
whom

答案是E
但是它的C选项OG里只指出来了them指代歧义的问题,并没有说many of them后面不能用谓语

-- by 会员 AmyGMAT (2010/5/3 23:47:38)



C当中有个But 啊!!!!。已经是另外一句话了,不是一个同位语关系咯
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发表于 2010-5-3 23:52:20 | 只看该作者
我自己觉得 many of them 还是many of whom,要从以下几方面出发
1. many of them 和many of whom/which 是可以互换的,两者皆没有错误。
区别在于many of them后面不能出现谓语动词,而many of whom/which之后必须有谓语才能构成完整的定语从句。
2.为什么出题者喜欢用many of them而不是many of whom/which?
我个人总结的原因:
a. them避免了人还是物的用词选择问题。

例如这道题
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-456793-1-1.html

b. them 不需要就近而which/whom有比较严格的就近要求。
c. them没有谓语,避免了时态的可能错误,也更加简洁。

所以,遇到many of them 还是many of whom/which的题目,从三方面入手:人还是物,就近关系有无出错,还有时态对不对
-- by 会员 反衬 (2010/5/3 23:10:53)




呵呵 仔细想了想我觉得这个结论有点...
我觉得them在用的时候也要很注意,并不是说ETS更喜欢them 因为them很容易造成指代的歧义
欢迎指正
-- by 会员 AmyGMAT (2010/5/3 23:40:38)



注意,我的理解是基于 many of them作同位语这一前提。

如果many of them是两句话的前后指代关系,则另当别论
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发表于 2010-5-3 23:54:11 | 只看该作者
我自己觉得 many of them 还是many of whom,要从以下几方面出发
1. many of them 和many of whom/which 是可以互换的,两者皆没有错误。
区别在于many of them后面不能出现谓语动词,而many of whom/which之后必须有谓语才能构成完整的定语从句。
2.为什么出题者喜欢用many of them而不是many of whom/which?
我个人总结的原因:
a. them避免了人还是物的用词选择问题。

例如这道题
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-456793-1-1.html

b. them 不需要就近而which/whom有比较严格的就近要求。
c. them没有谓语,避免了时态的可能错误,也更加简洁。

所以,遇到many of them 还是many of whom/which的题目,从三方面入手:人还是物,就近关系有无出错,还有时态对不对
-- by 会员 反衬 (2010/5/3 23:10:53)





呵呵 nn不要嫌我烦
想向nn求证一下
就是我上面用黄色标出来的那句话是不是说的太绝对了
many of whom后面是必须要加谓语的
但是many of them是不是要看情况啊
比如说OG12-43
43. Laos has a land area about the same as Great Britainbut only four million in population, where many are members of hill tribes ensconced in the virtually inaccessible mountain valleys of the north.
(A) about the same as Great Britain but only four million in population, where many
(B) of about the same size as Great Britain is, but in Laos there is a population of only four million,
and many
(C) that is about the same size as Great Britain’s land area, but in Laos with a population of only
four million people, many of them

(D) comparable to the size of Great Britain, but only four million in population, and many
(E) comparable to that of Great Britain but a population of only four million people, many of
whom

答案是E
但是它的C选项OG里只指出来了them指代歧义的问题,并没有说many of them后面不能用谓语

-- by 会员 AmyGMAT (2010/5/3 23:47:38)




C当中有个But 啊!!!!。已经是另外一句话了,不是一个同位语关系咯
-- by 会员 反衬 (2010/5/3 23:49:48)



嗯嗯 对对 我的意思就是只有在同位语的情况下才能这样用
啊啊
nn忽略好了~
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-4 00:55:49 | 只看该作者
不好意思,我刚刚跑去AWA区了~

区别在于many of them后面不能出现谓语动词,而many of whom/which之后必须有谓语才能构成完整的定语从句。
我问一个比较那啥的问题,是不是many of them children 是 many of them who are children 的省略形式?
15#
发表于 2011-9-25 14:49:51 | 只看该作者
应该是同位语,不是省略吧
觉得和each of them + n 这种有点像
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发表于 2012-10-8 02:09:35 | 只看该作者
我自己觉得 many of them 还是many of whom,要从以下几方面出发
1. many of them 和many of whom/which 是可以互换的,两者皆没有错误。
区别在于many of them后面不能出现谓语动词,而many of whom/which之后必须有谓语才能构成完整的定语从句。
2.为什么出题者喜欢用many of them而不是many of whom/which?
我个人总结的原因:
a. them避免了人还是物的用词选择问题。

例如这道题
http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-456793-1-1.html

b. them 不需要就近而which/whom有比较严格的就近要求。
c. them没有谓语,避免了时态的可能错误,也更加简洁。

所以,遇到many of them 还是many of whom/which的题目,从三方面入手:人还是物,就近关系有无出错,还有时态对不对
-- by 会员 反衬 (2010/5/3 23:10:53)



补充一点:请指教

whom是关系代词(Relative Pronouns),引导关系从句;
而同位语结构起修饰语作用,一般用于修饰名词或名词短语;
所以说whom并不适合用在同位语结构中。
17#
发表于 2013-9-8 11:54:45 | 只看该作者
讲的非常好 收藏
18#
发表于 2015-8-7 16:42:40 | 只看该作者
再补充一点:many of them在句中可作主语, 而many of whom在句中作定语
e.g."In the evening we went to a party and I met Diana's friends,many of whom are connected with the movie industry."
"In the evening we went to a party and I met Diana's friends.Many of them are connected with the movie industry."
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发表于 2015-8-7 23:57:20 | 只看该作者
In good years, the patchwork of green fields that surround the San Joaquin Valley town bustles with farm workers, many of them in the area just for the season.
(A) surround the San Joaquin Valley town bustles with farm workers, many of them
(B) surrounds the San Joaquin Valley town bustles with farm workers, many of whom are
(C) surround the San Joaquin Valley town bustles with farm workers, many of who are
(D) surround the San Joaquin Valley town bustle with farm workers, many of which(A)
(E) surrounds the San Joaquin Valley town bustles with farm workers, many are

这题解释没那么困难。a中逗号后的表对前句话的修饰,没问题;b因为是many of whom are所以是另一句话,中间应该有连词;c,d,e解释同b,忽略其他错误
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发表于 2016-8-17 10:37:51 | 只看该作者
yangzshi68 发表于 2015-8-7 23:57
In good years, the patchwork of green fields that surround the San Joaquin Valley town bustles with  ...

many of whom不是定语从句么,为啥要加连词
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