prep 1-37看了解释还是不明白

lovebook0824

One report concludes that many schools do not have, or likely to have, enough computers to use them effectively.  

(A) or

(B) nor

(C) or are

(D) nor are they

(E) nor are not

answer D

问题1：D选项，将are补出，因为be likely to do...可是为什么把they也补出了呢？白勇的书上说“平行并列结构中相同的主语可以省略(只要没有歧义)”

问题2：enough computers to use后面为什么还要补出them?

我分析问题2，补出them是避免歧义，them就近指代computers，因而不会产生enough computers to use schools的错误。不知道这样分析对否？

还有这个题目表明了they和them可以在同一句中出现，并且指代不同的对象。

请大家讨论~~

zyitbest

还有这个题目表明了they和them可以在同一句中出现，并且指代不同的对象。

怎么回事？？同问！

lovebook0824

恳请NN进来解释一下~~~谢谢~

AlienX

they和their可指不同的東東 OG10上有一題說wine的.  所以我相信they和them可指代不同的東東.
*個人*認為them不應該出現.

lovebook0824

In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vintners have cut
prices; their wines are priced to sell, and they do.

AlienX说得没错，卖酒的这道题目中their指Italian vintners, they指的是wines,OG还是看的太潦草。

那是不是可以说they, their, them三个代词在同一句中出现时，指代对象可以不一样？

还有不明白为什么One report concludes that many schools do not have, nor are they likely to have, enough computers to use them effectively. 中为什么要有they?

kingwangfei

代词指代的问题 我也问过了  看这个帖子 http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=23&id=385959

如果真的可以指代不同对象 那就太复杂了  什么时候判断可以 而什么时候又不可以呢？

盼NN能指点一二

杀G小骑士

问题一 they 补出来确定修schools 且平行句子看起来更对称

问题二 to use 语意不清 可能是用电脑本身或用电脑去做别的事 use them 确立句意

问题三 可指代不同   重要的是要没岐意

zxppx

lovebook0824 发表于 2009-5-2 08:07
One report concludes that many schools do not have, or likely to have, enough computers to use them  ...

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One report concludes that many schools do not have, or likely to have, enough computers to use them effectively.

(A) or

(B) nor

(C) or are

(D) nor are they

(E) nor are not

这题D选项中的they并不会和后面的them产生歧义，因为他们指代不同的东西。前者是schools, 后者指代computers. 比如She looked at her. 一个女人在看另一个女人。

但是有一条规则：当出现相同的代词时，比如全部都是he，那么它们必须指代同一个人

manhattan的解释：http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/one-report-concludes-that-many-schools-do-not-have-t5713.html

云游

lovebook0824 发表于 2009-5-3 15:39
In an effort to reduce their inventories, Italian vintners have cutprices; their wines are priced to ...

个人觉得这道题目应该从平行的角度来解题最有效，出现了连词“nor”的时候一定要注意平行，nor之前的结构是“schools do not have”（主语+谓语）之后跟“are they likely to have”（主语+谓语）的平行更好，但是“are likely to have”的结构也对，只不过选项中没有。A,C,D的错误很明显，可以排除，B的选项nor之后直接跟了likely to have影响了平行，这里没有谓语！

关于代词指代，个人觉得还是比较灵活的，唯一检验的标准就是自己读一遍，看会不会影响理解，如果不影响理解，那就是acceptable的！

fl0523

非牛牛，自己在做prep查找资料，放出来方便后人参考吧

be likely to 排除AB

nor的用法：
1-是不是可以变成“do not have, nor are likely to” 因为Nor本身就包含了一个“否定”的意思？

nope. you can't do that unless you have a "neither" in front.
i.e.:
the schools neither have, nor are likely to have, ...
this would work.
也就是说nor 不可以像and but一样做一个附加否定含义的连词，除非和neither连用
CONJ You use nor after "neither" in order to introduce the second alternative or the last of a number of alternatives in a negative statement. (用于)(neither)(后，以引出被否定的第二项或几项中的最后一项) 也不

2-this an idiomatic construction: nor + helping verb + subject.
CONJ You use nor after a negative statement in order to introduce another negative statement which adds information to the previous one. (用于否定句后，引出另一否定句以补充前句) 也不
e.g.
Cooking up a quick dish doesn't mean you have to sacrifice flavour. Nor does fast food have to be junk food


3-好像平时说 -I like money! -So do I. -I do not want lose. -Neither/Nor do I.
CONJ You use nor after a negative statement in order to indicate that the negative statement also applies to you or to someone or something else. (用于否定句后，以表示此否定也适用于自己、他人或别的事情) 也不

这里Nor的用法应该是第二条
其实只需要记住neither nor 之外，还有一个 nor+helping verb + subject的倒装的用法