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今年来美国读书的都是有勇气的,祝福你们

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发表于 2009-4-21 18:25:00 | 只看该作者
今天是马克吐温的逝世纪念日,不知仁兄有没有读过他的代表作之一《竞选州长》?


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发表于 2009-4-22 02:03:00 | 只看该作者

Another article taking about job markt.

  • APRIL 21, 2009
        
  • With Jobs Tight, M.B.A.s Head for Home

    By ALINA DIZIK

    After working in public accounting for three years, Joe Fusco, wanted to become an investment banker. So he invested more than $70,000 and two years into an M.B.A.

    But as he prepares to graduate from the University of Notre Dame in Indiana next month, Mr. Fusco, 27 years old, hasn't had any luck landing a position in finance. The only solution he has is to go back to his accounting roots. "It's a tough pill to swallow, but I've come to the conclusion that I can't sit and wait and cross my fingers," he says.

    The majority of students at top business schools attend the programs as a way to boost their skills to change careers. This year, making that happen has turned into a nearly impossible task. And that means a significant number of soon-to-be grads who entered school back in 2007 are being forced back to their pre-M.B.A. careers in the hopes of finding a job.

    "Career switchers are getting hit the hardest," says Kristen Lynas, associate director of career management at Georgetown University's McDonough School of Business. Those looking to switch fields make up the majority of each incoming class at the school, she adds. "When the market is hot, employers are more willing to take the risk ... [now] employers tend to go with the safe choice."

    [MBA Jobs]
                                    Sean Kelly

    Steve Canale, manager of recruiting and staffing services at General Electric Co., in Fairfield, Conn., says that with so many applicants, previous experience is getting a bigger emphasis when the company weeds out candidates. "That's the sweet spot -- people who have industry expertise in the industries that we're strong in," says Mr. Canale, who hires about 120 M.B.A. students each year for a sales and marketing program.

    In past years, GE would have been more open to M.B.A.s who were less of a match. But applications for the program grew 30% this year and Mr. Canale was able to be more experience-selective, he says.

    With firms like Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns -- which used to bring on upward of 800 M.B.A.s combined every year -- now defunct, and fewer finance jobs around, more business-school graduates are leaning on their experience to get them in the door. For example, the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business has typically placed 50% of its M.B.A. alumni in finance, most at large investment banks. This year, students in all majors have been turning back to their previous fields to find work, says Char Bennington, Chicago's senior associate director of career management. Ms. Bennington says other industries, like consulting and marketing, are also hiring fewer people and looking for experience.

    After Johnson & Johnson didn't extend an offer to Jareer Oweimrin, a second-year M.B.A. at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign who worked as a strategic marketing intern with the company, Mr. Oweimrin is putting his plans to get a health-care marketing role on hold for the time being. He is now trying to capitalize on his background in pharmaceutical sales and is in talks about returning to a sales job at a former employer, a major drug maker. He hopes such a move will eventually help him move into marketing. "The motto here [at school] is 'take what you've got,'" says Mr. Oweimrin, who spent about $70,000 on his degree. "You can't be as picky as you want to be."

    Even consulting firms -- known for hiring career switchers -- are looking for M.B.A.s with previous experience to hire.

    Brianne Shally, 29, who graduates from Northwestern University's Kellogg School of Management this spring, says she feels safer going back to a consulting job in Chicago for Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, her previous employer, rather than make a career change. "I have a proven track record, if it comes down to names on a board" for a layoff or hiring, says Ms. Shally. She says consulting jobs haven't been easy to land for fellow classmates, though. This year, she says, firms "were not willing to take a risk on students who did not have previous consulting experience."

    Patricia Phillips, executive director of career management at University of Rochester's Simon Graduate School of Business, says students are beginning to recognize that these days, it could take two or three career moves to make a switch.

    That's how Abhishek Sunkersett is approaching his first post-M.B.A. job. Instead of landing a job in strategy consulting or finance, Mr. Sunkersett, 28, a second-year student at the University of Texas-Austin McCombs School of Business, says his engineering background and technical experience working in the Mumbai office of Deloitte helped land him a position at the Chicago office of Infosys Technologies Ltd., an Indian information-technology services vendor. For now, Mr. Sunkersett says he'll focus on consulting projects involving technology, with hopes of pursuing more strategy-related projects in the firm. "My experience was a big advantage," says Mr. Sunkersett.

    But the idea of returning to an old career has some soon-to-be grads questioning the value of their degrees. A traditional post-M.B.A. position increases a degree-holder's salary by 74% according to an annual survey from the Graduate Management Admissions Council.

    Besides being unable to use his newly honed marketing skills, Mr. Oweimrin, says he is worried that he'll be earning the same as he did as a pharmaceutical rep -- about $60,000 -- instead of the $100,000 marketing job he expected to land after the M.B.A. program.

    And Mr. Fusco says he is less certain his investment in the degree was worthwhile. Many of the auditing positions that he is finding don't require a graduate business degree. "These are positions that I was pretty qualified for even pre-M.B.A," he says.

    Write to Alina Dizik at alina.dizik@dowjones.com

    Printed in The Wall Street Journal, page D6
                    
    23#
    发表于 2009-4-22 07:00:00 | 只看该作者

    我也来贡献一篇。这是BusinessWeek的。选MBA就像投资,时间很重要。如果不小心入错行,最高的差别可以有$5百万。

    Careers
                    April 3, 2008, 5:00PM EST

    It's Looking Grim for New Grads

    Recession-time MBAs face tough choices—and more modest earnings over their lifetimes

    By early February, when Casey Quinn interviewed at Morgan Stanley (MS) for an internship, the handwriting was on the wall. Global stocks had lost $5 trillion in the first few weeks of the year, and the U.S. economy appeared to be on the verge of recession. So when Morgan told Quinn "no thanks," the 25-year-old MBA student at Washington University in St. Louis went to Plan B. Quinn shelved his dreams of working on Wall Street and took an internship at Mattel (MAT), which he hopes will lead to a permanent job after graduation. Says the aspiring CFO: "There's more than one way to skin a cat."

    Gone are the days when B-schoolers had the luxury of choosing from among a half-dozen internships or job offers. As the Class of 2008 prepares to graduate, an uncertain business climate is forcing students to make difficult career choices that could have long-term economic consequences. A growing body of research on both MBAs and undergrads suggests that graduating into an economic downturn will substantially reduce lifetime earnings—in some cases by millions of dollars.

    So far the recruiting environment isn't nearly as bad as it was during the 2001 downturn, when MBA grads accepted offers only to have them rescinded. Still, at the University of Rochester B-school, salary offers are trending modestly downward. And big financial-services firms are taking on fewer newly minted MBAs. At Citigroup (C), such job offers are down 10% to 15% overall, according to Caitlin McLaughlin, global head of campus recruiting. "We'll err on the side of caution," she says.

    THIRTEEN-YEAR GAP

    For many new college grads, though, the real problems will come later than this summer—much later. One 2006 study found that Canadian college students graduating in a downturn earn about 6% less for the first decade of their careers. Another, examining the impact of the 1982 recession on U.S. undergraduates, revealed that every percentage-point increase in the unemployment rate at graduation translates into a 7%-to-8% initial wage loss. The gap closes over time but lasts at least 13 years. Lisa Kahn, the Harvard University PhD candidate who authored the study, found that recessionary grads had difficulty switching to better jobs after the economy picks up.

    Billy Tilson knows what it's like to wander in the wilderness. He took a job with PricewaterhouseCoopers after graduating from the University of Virginia in 2000 but was laid off after eight months. For three years he got by on unemployment and $20-an-hour contract jobs before landing a position with a consulting firm in Richmond, Va. Looking back, Tilson, 30, says: "I felt like I was doing something wrong."

    For MBA students, the stakes are even higher. Paul Oyer, an associate professor at Stanford, combed the job histories of Stanford University MBAs who graduated from 1960 to 1995 and found that those attending B-school during a bull market were more likely to pursue careers in investment banking. As a result, they earned far more over the course of their careers—$1.5 million to $5 million more—than they would have in other professions. "If you graduate in a recession, you're likely to work in a different [industry]," says Oyer. "That will take you down a different track for the rest of your life."

    As fatalistic as that sounds, there is a way for students to escape the boom-and-bust cycle: Stay in school till the economy picks up. It will cost you in the short run, but in the long run, Kahn and Oyer say, graduating in a bull market will more than make up for it.

    24#
    发表于 2009-4-22 09:51:00 | 只看该作者

    这次金融危机和以往不一样,收到美国政府资助的公司不能招收外国人。因此MBA失去了大多数进入美国银行工做的机会。

    25#
    发表于 2009-4-22 11:53:00 | 只看该作者

    上面这个文章是08年4月而不是09年4月的?

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