现在美国经济这么烂,大家读MBA都打算毕业回国吗?

慕容楠生

以下是引用lp_nvm在2008-7-15 18:10:00的发言：

60%在美国欧洲工作没有问题,35%在香港工作没有问题？基数是啥

我听说美国公司总部还蛮好的，但是去了分公司比如国内的外企会把你往死里用～做牛做马很辛苦，不知道是不是真的那么累

基数是Duke的20来华人，你现在的问题是几乎只有很微弱的机会进Duke以前的学校，自然就爆发了你的主题。

慕容楠生

 Chicago GSB Class 2009 Internship

2008实在算不上一个好年头，商学院入学前就赶上了历史性的信贷危机，每天媒体上铺天盖地都是各大投行的earning loss和write down。作为一年级学生，在众口一词对未来经济前景悲观的环境下，压力是可想而知的。但INTERN总要找吧，硬着头皮上吧。所幸subprime还未波及到亚洲，也所幸GSB中国同学们准备还算充分，今年intern情况还颇为可喜。我抛砖引玉粗略列个名单如下(截止至2008年2月），给申请的CD筒子们鼓鼓劲，也顺便替CHICAGO GSB做个小广告：

(名单统计只包括GSB Class2009的30名中国大陆护照同学，绝大部分直接大陆背景入学，其中4名同学有长期在美国工作和生活的经历）

Investment Banking Division:

Firms	Hong Kong	Beijing	Singapore	New York	London	Subtotal
Barclays				1		1
Citibank	1				1	2
Credit Suisse	4			2		6
Deutsche Bank	7			1	1	9
Goldman Sachs	1	4	1	1		7
HSBC	2					2
JP Morgan	2					2
Lehman Brothers	8			1		9
Macquarie	1					1
Merrill Lynch	4			1	1	6
Morgan Stanley	2			1		3
UBS	1			2		3
Subtotal	33	4	1	10	3	51

Consulting:

Firms	Hong Kong	Beijing	Shanghai	US	Subtotal
McKinsey		1			1
BCG	2				2
Bain			1		1
AT Kearney				1	1
Booz Allen		1			1
Monitor	1				1
Subtotal	3	2	7)" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent;">1	1	7

Other functions in Investment Managment, Private Equity , Venture Capital, Sales & Trading, General Management in Corporate:

Firms	Function	Hong Kong	Beijing	US	London	Subtotal
T.Rowe Price	IM	1				1
Deustche Bank	IM			1		1
PIMCO	IM			1		1
MVC Capital	IM			1		1
Deustche Bank	S&T	1			1	2
Merrill Lynch	S&T	1			1	2
Goldman Sachs	S&T	1				1
JP Morgan	Private Banking	1				1
Warburg Pincus	PE	1				1
Deustche Bank	PE	1				1
Northern Light	VC		1			1
Dow Chemical	Corporate			1		1
D&B	Corporate			1		1
Apple	Corporate			1		1
Subtotal		7	12)" style="BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-TOP-COLOR: windowtext; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent;">1	6	2	16

janetbaby

有个问题关于GSB的internship,MBA都说location 很重要,可是GSB怎么都没人在Chicago实习，难道Chicago的金融不好吗?

慕容楠生

呼唤他们的校友来解答了。

winterblaste

Employment always lag behind the economy for a while.
Most of the internship for this summer was extended last year or early this year when the economy was still in a pretty good shape. Traditionally, US companies don't rescind internship offers. Therefore, those data refects the situation of last year while most of the layoffs happened this year.

If you check the historical data, you'll find that very high percentage of MBA students, even from top 10 schools, couldn't land jobs upon graduation during last recession at 2002, 2003 though the recession officiall ended in 2001. Many more Chinese students ended up going back to China in those 2 years.

IMO, the job market for 2009 and 2010, even 2011 could be very tough. Maybe more difficult than 2002/2003 because the financial sectors are affected much severely this time than the last one.

winterblaste

Even in Warton, only 76% of the MBA students got jobs upon graduation in 2002. Class 2003 was even worse than Class 2002.

You should think it over whether you should come at this bad time if you want to find a job after your MBA program.

lp_nvm

虽然MBA以前的背景很重要 但是整体经济形势不好对MBA的就业有多坏的影响？

即使经济再不好，假设美国次贷导致其他产业也跟着萧条，甚至欧日也跟着恶化（最坏的情况了），top 10的mba毕业的中国人没绿卡身份的，即使工作背景还不错，英语口语也蛮好，能在北美找到不错的工作吗？

davidzhuoer

呵呵，24%的wharton毕业生毕业时候都没工作，听起来还是挺恐怖。

你的口语再好有美国人好么？其实不用和美国人比，中国人中所谓口语好的也比不上口语一般的印度人或欧洲人。这么说吧，在美国的bschool里，大概中国人的口语也就比日本人韩国人好点，处于bottom 10%。

国内的工作经验对在美国找工作大概更是没多大用，除非你在国内特牛，不过要那样的话你也不用来读MBA了。

victomer

一场棋局，一手险招，是对是错，无人知晓。

骚毛裤

找到实习不等于留下工作～N多人实习到期走人或者签证抽签失败的