NUS MFE 和 EDHEC RAM 去哪一个？

zliyclh

以下是引用老鼠兔子在2008-5-19 17:40:00的发言：

嗯，同意，深刻明白如果真地在新加坡工作的话，但从学校讲，nus会比较好。

可是想问大家有人听说过nus的mfe么？当时没申请ntu的是因为没赶上deadline所以才去的nus。说实话，nus的这个，没怎么听人说起过，就连我在nus的同学都不知道nus有这个的，所以才有点担心。如果拿的是ntu的offer,现在应该不会这么痛苦挣扎了。

还有就是挺担心nus的part-time的，目前的公司是manufacturing,所以不可能跟老板讲我要去读mfe，申请提早下班之类的东西。而且学part-time的同事都建议我不要拿多于两门以上的课，因为工作性质随时可能加班，时间精力都不允许。就连他们学公司本专业的master都觉得辛苦，更不用讲我这种跨专业的了。所以本来program里写的一年半的课程，很有可能两年甚至两年半才能上完。这样就觉得时间太久了。

从这两个方面的担心来看，就比较想去法国。心想着那个实习会不会加点分呢？想继续听听大家的意见。

如果要真是这种情况的话我倒还是建议你去法国，因为我觉得想改变行业的学习最好是full-time的，如果是part-time，就像你说的那样，会非常非常辛苦，效果也不太好，更何况edhec的金融在欧洲算是很不错的了，未来很多都是不可预知的，但是既然你想做finance就应该找一个更合适的地方更合适的条件来做，多一份经验可能你的看法就会多一点变化，再说有你父母支持你，这真是很难得的。

jamesgenie

这贴子给你叁考一下
http://www.global-derivatives.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=3b4bcda86ffa9d9b67f73808bc543f24&topic=1746.0

不过我觉得MFE与RAM课程与出路上都差满多的，还是端看楼主未来想做什麽吧

老鼠兔子

以下是引用jamesgenie在2008-5-21 18:44:00的发言：
这贴子给你叁考一下
http://www.global-derivatives.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=3b4bcda86ffa9d9b67f73808bc543f24&topic=1746.0

不过我觉得MFE与RAM课程与出路上都差满多的，还是端看楼主未来想做什麽吧

那楼上对这个的出路有什么看法呢？MFE和RAM的出路有什么不同啊？

Maowu

以下是引用老鼠兔子在2008-5-19 17:40:00的发言：

嗯，同意，深刻明白如果真地在新加坡工作的话，但从学校讲，nus会比较好。

可是想问大家有人听说过nus的mfe么？当时没申请ntu的是因为没赶上deadline所以才去的nus。说实话，nus的这个，没怎么听人说起过，就连我在nus的同学都不知道nus有这个的，所以才有点担心。如果拿的是ntu的offer,现在应该不会这么痛苦挣扎了。

还有就是挺担心nus的part-time的，目前的公司是manufacturing,所以不可能跟老板讲我要去读mfe，申请提早下班之类的东西。而且学part-time的同事都建议我不要拿多于两门以上的课，因为工作性质随时可能加班，时间精力都不允许。就连他们学公司本专业的master都觉得辛苦，更不用讲我这种跨专业的了。所以本来program里写的一年半的课程，很有可能两年甚至两年半才能上完。这样就觉得时间太久了。

从这两个方面的担心来看，就比较想去法国。心想着那个实习会不会加点分呢？想继续听听大家的意见。

I see. I think for your case, a full time program will be better. If you are already in banking then NUS is better, otherwise NTU FULL Time will be better. But anyway, this year is a very bad year for the whole industry. It maybe good that you did not get in NTU this year. As I know, this year NTU Full time MFE (graduate in this July) only got less than 10 ppl find job until late april. Last year more than half of their graduates land job offers in April. 

You may consider to re-apply next year. The competition is so tough in the market now.

MFE is a very large investment, you do want to get a very handsom return. In a tough market condition, a full time experience top US or UK program will certainly reduce the volatility of your return!! I cannot judge ESSHEC RAM. But if its school fee is the same as those top US/UK programs, I would say its P/E ratio is too high to buy in. Base on my experience,not all but most of the GE graduates in the frontline are native french speakers with good undergraduate background. I guess you are still young, no need to rush at this moment. 40K EURO is a large investment, you need to make sure you analysis every perspect of this investment,

By the end of day, the most important thing is if you can land the job and the pay you want.

Alternatively, if you think US/UK cost too high, you may consider HKUST. As I know, their program director is one of the top expert in quant finance. AlthoughI have no information abt their placement rate, base on the course design and faculty, i would say it is the best in HK.

老鼠兔子

Thanks Maowu.

But the program I applied in EDHEC is not the GE, but a Msc, so for tuition it's generally cheap (13.5K Euro). Even for living cost,if I'm doing the full-time in singapore, it'll be similar to the one in France (except the air-ticket ). So the investment part would be roughly the same for both NTU and EDHEC.

If I only concern about the return, which one would be better?

Maowu

以下是引用老鼠兔子在2008-5-23 11:07:00的发言：

Thanks Maowu.

But the program I applied in EDHEC is not the GE, but a Msc, so for tuition it's generally cheap (13.5K Euro). Even for living cost,if I'm doing the full-time in singapore, it'll be similar to the one in France (except the air-ticket ). So the investment part would be roughly the same for both NTU and EDHEC.

If I only concern about the return, which one would be better?

Sorry. was too busy. Regards GE, I mean Grand Ecole.

Not sure about EDHEC's placement, but if you definitely will come back to singapore, then Loacl University definitely has more connections. In terms of return, only you can judge it as I am not sure your background. And Job hunting is really depends on the individual's effort and background.

Given the market is too volatile. To play safe, if i were you, I would wait for next year US top school. If I really need to do it this year, and I can sponsor myself, then I would choose EDHEC. But if my family's financial condition is not so good or my father want to buy a 200 sqm house this year, then I will choose NUS part time

Just my two cents. It's a decision you need made by yourself.

wjjjojo

用过来人的话告诉你~ 去一个讲英文的国家吧，来法国上学不会讲法语就要搞死你。。。

实习那是一个难找啊，工作就更别提了~

ahsunlily

楼主还犹豫什么呀！当然是去EDHEC了。我在新加坡的一间外资银行工作。我们公司内部HR的政策是，如果是去读金融硕士在几大顶级学校，公司负责全部学费并提供部分零花钱。公司开的学校名单上，一共就10来所大学，除了全美的top 10以外其它只有两所学校，一个是LBS的MIF，另外一个就是EDHEC...NUS，连想都别想了。

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zack_wong

看来在MAS的心目中，我们学校的金融类的确有地位啊，哈哈，以后可以考虑投身去SG工作了

crystallike

以下是引用ahsunlily在2008-5-29 18:34:00的发言：
楼主还犹豫什么呀！当然是去EDHEC了。我在新加坡的一间外资银行工作。我们公司内部HR的政策是，如果是去读金融硕士在几大顶级学校，公司负责全部学费并提供部分零花钱。公司开的学校名单上，一共就10来所大学，除了全美的top 10以外其它只有两所学校，以格式LBS，另外一个就是EDHEC...NUS，连想都别想了。

那hec,escp,emlyon和insead都比edhec差，你意思？

另外，跟你说美国的top 10几乎没有金融硕士的

[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-29 23:01:45编辑过]