In @ Insead & Yale, nnm help...

nnm

For banking, it's really your backgroud that matters.

banking in US, forget about insead; in asia, hard to say; in Europe, insead brand is better than most us top schools.

intership is very important as well, but not to an extreme

i know it's a hard decision but you have to do it by yourself because, obviously, yale alumni will refer to yale while insead to insead

seems like you don't even know what you want to do as yet.............

sinocheetah

INSEAD is substantially undervalued in its Mainland China market. We can see many participants from other countries who quit MIT, Wharton...and come to INSEAD, but this never happens with Chinese participants. Some even think over between INSEAD and Duke.Simply because we overvalue US MBA (we may think US is paradise more than other nations)

Agree with Lull. If you want school's reputation, go Yale.Otherwise go INSEAD.

Give you a flavor of INSEAD life in Singapore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG_KYlpHs40
                

backinshanghai

Hey,

Saw your dilemma and decided to give you my 2 cents. 

We are all current or recently graduated INSEADers (I'm in Lullaby's class) and as you can tell, we are all pretty passionate about our school and the experience.  So that in itself should speak volumes about the school and its reputation.

But as an American, I can tell you that I DON'T regret it for a second that I did NOT apply or attend an American business school.  One of the things my classmates forgot to mention is that students at INSEAD really do have a more global perspective compared to those who you might meet in the U.S.  My guess is that those friends of yours who don't know INSEAD, they must all be American or very America-centric.  If any of them is open minded enough to have ever considered the possibility of going abroad for an MBA, then they would have learned from their research that INSEAD is one of the best schools out there on the internatinal stage.  If you see yourself as someone who wants to embrace a more international career or a more global perspective, you're better off going to INSEAD. 

I didn't apply to an American school because I didn't want to get stuck with a bunch of people who still believe U.S. will remain to be the center of the universe for as long as we live.  Most North American students at INSEAD share my view.  And most of them don't necessarily want to return to U.S. or Canada after graduation.  That's the big difference.

And lastly, growing up in the U.S., we all know Yale is an Ivy League.  It's like Harvard, everyone from CEO level to street sweepers know the names Harvard and Yale!  What's the big deal????  Those in the recruiting industry who needs to know the status and ranking of a school already know about INSEAD, especially the consulting industry.  And if you want to get finnicky about the ranking, honestly, Yale does not rank high at all (compared to the "magic 7") as a business school.  For law, maybe, but not MBA.

nnm

以下是引用backinshanghai在2008-4-25 2:34:00的发言：

Hey,

Saw your dilemma and decided to give you my 2 cents. 

We are all current or recently graduated INSEADers (I'm in Lullaby's class) and as you can tell, we are all pretty passionate about our school and the experience.  So that in itself should speak volumes about the school and its reputation.

But as an American, I can tell you that I DON'T regret it for a second that I did NOT apply or attend an American business school.  One of the things my classmates forgot to mention is that students at INSEAD really do have a more global perspective compared to those who you might meet in the U.S.  My guess is that those friends of yours who don't know INSEAD, they must all be American or very America-centric.  If any of them is open minded enough to have ever considered the possibility of going abroad for an MBA, then they would have learned from their research that INSEAD is one of the best schools out there on the internatinal stage.  If you see yourself as someone who wants to embrace a more international career or a more global perspective, you're better off going to INSEAD. 

I didn't apply to an American school because I didn't want to get stuck with a bunch of people who still believe U.S. will remain to be the center of the universe for as long as we live.  Most North American students at INSEAD share my view.  And most of them don't necessarily want to return to U.S. or Canada after graduation.  That's the big difference.

And lastly, growing up in the U.S., we all know Yale is an Ivy League.  It's like Harvard, everyone from CEO level to street sweepers know the names Harvard and Yale!  What's the big deal????  Those in the recruiting industry who needs to know the status and ranking of a school already know about INSEAD, especially the consulting industry.  And if you want to get finnicky about the ranking, honestly, Yale does not rank high at all (compared to the "magic 7") as a business school.  For law, maybe, but not MBA.

Hi J,

How is NYC? I'm in Shanghai right now

zjlt3

yale。for that you will be the alumni with american presidents.

shaoji

以下是引用zjlt3在2008-4-29 13:08:00的发言：

yale。for that you will be the alumni with american presidents.

嗯，然后您就可以免费拿到米国总统的签名哪！厉害

backinshanghai

Aren't most U.S. Presidents dead already?  Did some research, only four are still alive: Carter, Bush, Clinton and W. Bush.  Well, the two Bush's might as well be classifed as brain dead.

Out of all the U.S. Presidents, only two went to Yale: Gerald Ford (dead), Clinton (almost impeached).  And by the way, neither went to Yale for MBA.  They were Yale Law School graduates.  Like I said, Yale is strong for Law, not MBA.

Whitney

Frankly, Yale SOM is 2nd class citizen in Yale, & the building looks
aweful.  For example, the second Yale SOM (School of Music) received
$100 million donation recently so that students don't have to pay
tuitions.  The third Yale SOM (School of Medicine) got an extra huge complex
last year (1.5 million sf). Yale b-school only has 110,000 sf.

But, Yale's China connection is very long (back to Qing dynasty) and strong.  China's president visited Yale and gave a speech in 2006.  A few weeks ago, a dozen of officials from China's State Food and Drug Administration were trained in Yale campus by Yale's faculties and officials/scientists from FDA.  A lot of similar trainings are ongoing (part of Yale's Yale-China program).

If lz's long term career is beyond consulting and more government relationship, Yale brand will shine. Otherwise, INSEAD.