请教大全774题，感谢！

joywzy

好奇怪啊。怎么你们都明白了，就我不明白啊？？？？

A：The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client and then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.

and then 前不是省去一个SHE，指的是律师啊？？？不是指警察，如果指警察，应该这样用：

she suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client and then of using  the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.

miejue，是不是理解成了省去了 of having illegally used the information obtained to find...

gemj

A选项如果是正确选项的话，从逻辑意思上说，其结构应该是这样的：
The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally (taped her confidential conversations with her client) and (then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges).
因为lawyer不可能自己来寻找有罪的证据。她是为她的client进行无罪的辩护。
如果是这样，因为then used前面的having illegally与并列成份的前面是一样的，所以可以不再补出。

当然，因为这个选项是错误的，所以按joywzy理解为：
The lawyer for the defense charged that she (suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client) and (then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges).
并不是不可以。

当然，我们在做题时，不管正确还是错误的选项，都应该按照最符合逻辑的意思来理解。

joywzy

以下是引用gemj在2003-11-2 13:29:00的发言：
A选项如果是正确选项的话，从逻辑意思上说，其结构应该是这样的：
The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally (taped her confidential conversations with her client) and (then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges).
因为lawyer不可能自己来寻找有罪的证据。她是为她的client进行无罪的辩护。
如果是这样，因为then used前面的having illegally与并列成份的前面是一样的，所以可以不再补出。

gemj,谢谢你的耐心讲解。两个问题：

1。 如果是这样，因为then used前面的having illegally与并列成份的前面是一样的，所以可以不再补出。

有依据吗？因为省略中这样容易岐义啊。

2。你说要按逻辑意思来判断。可是我们是在比较选项啊。你如何知道哪个更好，不是只有比完后才知道吗？

我当时对A的理解就是想省略错了，引起岐义了。

我碰到的类似一题：

885-11-12
12.     Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves.
(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state's economy after they have exhausted their oil reserves
(C) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted
(D) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after exhausting its oil reserves
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted
C/D比呢?

mjiehu

以下是引用gemj在2003-11-1 22:28:00的发言：
774. The lawyer for the defense charged that she suspected the police of having illegally taped her confidential conversations with her client and then used the information obtained to find evidence supporting their murder charges.
(A) used the information obtained to find evidence supporting
(B) used such information as they obtained to find evidence supporting
(C) used the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support
(D) of using the information they had obtained to find evidence that would support
(E) of using such information as they obtained to find evidence that would be supportive of
正确答案：D
我不理解的是：选D的话，则句子的结构是：

逻辑意思好象不通啊？
律师怀疑警察（X），接着又怀疑警察（Y）

如果选A的话，可以将used看作与taped并列，逻辑不是更通顺吗：
律师怀疑警察（偷录他们的机密谈话，并利用这一信息去寻找有罪指控的证据）。

但这个答案是ETS给的，没有问题。难道ETS可以随心所欲地给答案吗？还是有何深奥之玄机？

这个题目的确容易混淆，中心点在动词tape和use上。如果将use和tape并列，那么动词的形式为having taped和having used，在这里，having taped是有理由的而having used没有理由，因为这里suspect和use information发生在同一时间。

整句翻译：
辨方律师向法庭提出指控，她怀疑(suspected)警方非法收录她与被告之间的秘密谈话(had taped)并使用(used, 而不是完成式，因为“使用“和被告律师提出指控在同一时间，同在法庭)非法获得(had obtained，同had taped呼应)的信息获取指证被告谋杀的证据。

mjiehu

绝对正解

yijiban

gemj

以下是引用joywzy在2003-11-2 13:41:00的发言：
我当时对A的理解就是想省略错了，引起岐义了。

我想如果你仅仅因为这一点就判断A是错的似乎欠妥。
因为任何一个句子细抠起来或多或少总会有引起误解的地方。那要照你这么说
A of B that
的句子不是永远是错误的吗？

gemj

以下是引用joywzy在2003-11-2 13:41:00的发言：
1。 如果是这样，因为then used前面的having illegally与并列成份的前面是一样的，所以可以不再补出。

有依据吗？因为省略中这样容易岐义啊。

我想我的括号已经很清晰了，这还要依据啊？

gemj

以下是引用joywzy在2003-11-2 13:41:00的发言：
885-11-12
12.     Alaska regularly deposits some of its profits from the sale of oil into a special fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves.
(A) fund, with the intention to sustain the state's economy after the exhaustion of its oil reserves
(B) fund, the intention of which is to sustain the state's economy after they have exhausted their oil reserves
(C) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted
(D) fund intended to sustain the state's economy after exhausting its oil reserves
(E) fund that they intend to sustain the state's economy after oil reserves are exhausted
C/D比呢?

这个题目D中exhausting的逻辑主语不清晰吧？

joywzy

以下是引用gemj在2003-11-2 14:58:00的发言：
我想如果你仅仅因为这一点就判断A是错的似乎欠妥。
因为任何一个句子细抠起来或多或少总会有引起误解的地方。那要照你这么说
A of B that
的句子不是永远是错误的吗？

gemj,你认为判断A错，是根据什么呢？

谢谢。

gemj

以下是引用joywzy在2003-11-2 15:12:00的发言：

gemj,你认为判断A错，是根据什么呢？

谢谢。

看这个：

以下是引用miejue在2003-11-1 22:56:00的发言：
gemj 这里解题的关键还是ETS惯用的歧义啊

如果是A use与tape并列 变成of having illegally used 但是实际上警察使用information是不犯法的（后面的寻找证据也是不犯法的） 只是tape（对谈话录音）是illegal的 Got it?