CEIBS or MIT Sloan Please help me decide!

boston2007

既然都问了，肯定选CEIBS。选MIT的１００％不会在这上面问

eeyupyup

以下是引用ruirui72在2007-1-31 23:25:00的发言：

Hi everyone,

I have offers from both CEIBS and MIT Sloan and I can't decide.  Since I am in the U.S., I don't know very much about CEIBS at all.  However, it is now ranked higher than MIT by FInancial Time (2007). 

Please help!

Thanks!

you gotta be kidding us.

GigaGem

恩，这个帖子应该加精。

ruirui72

Thanks for responses.  I wish I can prove that I am not kidding, but your responses make the decision very clear. 

There's a new trend in the U.S. for foreign MBAs.  Since I grew up in the U.S. a foreign MBA for me would have been CEIBS.  Considering the incredible ranking CEIBS received, I thought this was a valid question.

For the one person who was nice enough to consider the possibility I am not insane:

Background:

Born: Beijing moved to U.S. when I was 9 current age 23

College:  University of Maryland  with 2 degrees - Finance and Statistics

Experience:  2 year at an Economic and Financial Consulting Firm

CEIBS phone Interview was unexpected very general.  I was very disappointed by it.

MIT interview asks questions very similar to the essay questions:

1.  Why MIT?

2.  Describe a time when you took a risk.

3.  Describe a time when you helped another co-worker in distress.  What did you do specifically?

4.  Describe a time when you took charge.  Why were you in charge?

5.  Is there anything MIT should know about you?  Do you have any question?

I was asked to give examples that are different from the ones in my essays.  I was slightly unprepared but I was very careful in constructing a beginning, a middle and an end.  I also quickly summarized the story and tie it back to the question that was asked.  (e.g.  The situation was a very risky situation because...but in the end I was able to ....).

Give your self time to think and don't embellish too much.  Be confident and smile.

MIT essays are pretty reasonable for MBA.  Focus on the result and lesson learned sections.  It's ok if the set-up is vague.

golddigger

想在中国学学文化和不同风格的东西这种想法是对的，但是拜托您现在是在学mba而不是什么summer school之类的课程，您以后要在世界的经济舞台上show,请问mit和ceibs（抱歉我都不知道这到底是哪个中国的mba,因为不是很关注，当然也一定是非常不错的）哪张牌让您能在舞台上show 的爽？当然如果您非要在读了mba之后去如洪都拉斯，索马里，中国的大山深处里这种“鸟不拉屎”的地方（抱歉这样比喻不是贬低，而是说明生存环境之险恶程度绝非常人能想象，除非你不是常人）去献身公共事业，扶贫，募捐，向白求恩同志和斯诺同志学习的话，我首先向您报以深深之鞠躬，并劝您还是考虑去发展中国家象征性读一mba，然后狂学当地土语，就算对的起您的梦想了！！！

不过说实话，我认识的几个老美top 10mba,还真是信誓旦旦的表示毕业后想去上述地方深刻反省生活之不幸和自己之有幸，无处不展现把别人的幸福建立在自己的痛苦的仁慈之志。真是佩服的五体投地，自叹不如啊！！！

seanbb

any scholarship from CEIBS or Sloan?

ruirui72

以下是引用golddigger在2007-2-1 8:45:00的发言：

想在中国学学文化和不同风格的东西这种想法是对的，但是拜托您现在是在学mba而不是什么summer school之类的课程，您以后要在世界的经济舞台上show,请问mit和ceibs（抱歉我都不知道这到底是哪个中国的mba,因为不是很关注，当然也一定是非常不错的）哪张牌让您能在舞台上show 的爽？当然如果您非要在读了mba之后去如洪都拉斯，索马里，中国的大山深处里这种“鸟不拉屎”的地方（抱歉这样比喻不是贬低，而是说明生存环境之险恶程度绝非常人能想象，除非你不是常人）去献身公共事业，扶贫，募捐，向白求恩同志和斯诺同志学习的话，我紫认蚰?ㄒ陨钌钪?瞎??⑷澳?故强悸侨シ⒄怪泄?蚁笳餍远烈籱ba，然后狂学当地土语，就算对的起您的梦想了！！！

不过说实话，我认识的几个老美top 10mba,还真是信誓旦旦的表示毕业后想去上述地方深刻反省生活之不幸和自己之有幸，无处不展现把别人的幸福建立在自己的痛苦的仁慈之志。真是佩服的五体投地，自叹不如啊！！！

Here's my reasoning, maybe I am completely wrong and idealistic, but...

China is at the center of the economic stage right now and it will only expand in the next ten to twenty years.  From the perspective of a Chinese person in China, getting a MBA from U.S. will give them the prestige and the International experience needed to succeed.  Therefore, if I were in China right now, this would be an obvious choice too.

If I decide to stay in U.S., I am going to find a job with an average salary of $100,000 a year – 40% Tax = $60,000 – Living Expense = $20,000.  The annual increase in salary is going to be about 5-10%.  What really matters is that it will take 15-20 years to get anywhere near top management. 

If I decide to return to China, maybe people like me will be in high demand by multi-national companies, maybe I can move up at a much faster pace, and maybe I can earn enough money to retire early.  It make sense to follow the flow of money rather than a outdated America dream.

From my perspective, I would rather develop in China.  What I need the most is a crunch in the language and a solid contacts list and I can only get this at MIT.  I am going to go to MIT, but it’s not a clear-cut decision.

jinyuanz

我觉得本年度最大的joke就是Financial Time居然能把CEIBS排在Sloan前面吧...以后我再也不会看排名了，呵呵。

linlinlinlin

你太应该去 CEIBS了. CEIBS会因为有你而骄傲。

你应该不会看不懂中文吧，呵呵

danfulee

中欧很好的，楼主，不要被上面的言论误导了。你已经有一个美国的学位了，而且在美国呆了那么久，正是好机会了解中国的时候。而中欧正提供了这样一个平台，以你美国的学习工作经历再加上中国最好的商学院的教育背景，无敌了。

这年头，到处都需要杂交人才的，好好想想吧。中欧的排名摆在那的呀，说明不会太差的。