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晴耕雨读

以下是引用5332649在2004-1-15 11:04:00的发言：
此题解释因为时态不一致所以补come,
在比较句中than或as后补足助动词时一定要前后时态一致吗？
不可以根据句子意思前面是过去时，后面补成完成时吗？
很糊涂？？？？？？？
比较前后时态不一致却只补助动词的例子。

885－13－22
22. In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, that Halley’s comet will pass the next time it appears.
(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

答案为D

在比较句中than或as后补足助动词时一定要前后时态一致吗？
不可以根据句子意思前面是过去时，后面补成完成时吗？

顶！我也奇怪，１７题是因为前后时态不同而要把come补出？　那么22题为什么又可以省略？　是因为22其他几项都错的更厉害吗？　如果这样，前后时态不一致需要将动词补出的说法也是相对的了？！

andrew_li

The correct answer can only be A, B or C because "as ... as ..." should be used. B is incorrect since had been can not be used to substitute came. Now we are looking at the last two, A and C. A is correct because it means "up till now, no one has done it better than Bob Wilber". So there is nothing wrong with the present perfect in this choice. Gramatically C is also correct. But it somehow changes the meaning of the sentence to be "up till some point in the 1940's, no one had done better than Bob Wilber". Overall, A is the best choice.

晴耕雨读

Thanks andrew， it is clear for No.17

继续之前的问题：

885－13－22
22. In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, (that Halley’s comet will pass) the next time it appears.
(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

答案为D
两个句子比较，如果前后的时态不一致，后面一个句子的动词不应该省略动词只用助动词代替，而上面的NO.22 的例子做何解释？我比较了5个选项，认为可以的解释是其他4个选项错的太厉害了。但对于这个比较的知识点却糊涂了，是我弄错了吗？

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andrew_li

以下是引用jessiehong在2005-8-31 19:54:00的发言：

两个句子比较，如果前后的时态不一致，后面一个句子的动词不应该省略动词只用助动词代替

Don't know where you heard this from but I think you have been misled.This question tests the usage of "the same as" so A and B can be ruled out right away. Among the rest three, only D is correct since it's short for Halley's comet will pass.

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晴耕雨读

D的比较 很清楚，但就是这个知识点让我耿耿于怀，好象是从BY上看的...我要查查.

Avantasia

考点抓住主要的，比较这个考点里面比较对像的对等是第一位，至于补出，我曾经尝试总结，但是发现没有太多的规律可循，切记选最好的。

pierre_chin

我觉得C即使时态对，选项也有问题

as anyone ever had done应为：

as anyone ever had，或

as anyone ever had come.

所以，C可以首先排除。

另，C的错误也可由以下题目的E选项反推：

885－13－22
22. In its most recent approach, the comet Crommelin passed the Earth at about the same distance and in about the same position, some 25 degrees above the horizon, (that Halley’s comet will pass) the next time it appears.
(A) that Halley’s comet will pass
(B) that Halley’s comet is to be passing
(C) as Halley’s comet
(D) as will Halley’s comet
(E) as Halley’s comet will do

答案为D

zenger

同意楼上的。

个人以为：

正常我们可以使用原动词（相应时态改变）来进行比较，

如果用do之类的抽象动词代替原动作，如有时态要求，使用助动词或系动词就可以了，不必再重复do,did,done.

可参考补充-211

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xjlv128

觉得这题其实主要考得是时态，原句是说“至今无人企及“的意思，其他选项时态都不对。

YY_lalala

以下是引用zenger在2005-8-28 14:34:00的发言：

BW在九岁就开始师从SB并作为他的被监护人,在20世纪40年代的好几年中，他在表演中几乎成为该爵士乐演奏名家第二,迄今为止无人能及。

亮点:
1) the jazz virtuoso就是Sidney Bechet(爵士乐的第一把萨克斯风─“教皇”西德尼·波切特)
2) come close to (doing sth)是习语,表示A: to almost do sth; B: to be as good as someone or sth else

因此,本题单从语法角度,C应该是没错的--even前置虽然没有ETS明确支持,但也不能说反对,至少有此语法现象,表强调;

done和实意动词come一样,作用都实现了;

但是如果从意思上考虑,似乎A就突出了:
1) 如果是强调,这种"前无古人,后无来者"似乎比EVEN更好,
2) 如果用had done,其意思就一般化了,也没有必要用even强调了;
3) 考虑到本题come close to being a carbon copy的修饰方法, 好象还是要和has来比更好;
4) 考虑到本题come词组其实是一种比喻,用come来对应似乎比done修辞上好一点(语法上无所谓).

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