大全99－新思路

jandjshi

99. Although the manager agreed to a more flexible work schedule, he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is assigned to do.

(A) he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is

(B) he said it had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor knows what everyone is

(C) he said that they would have to post the assignments on the bulletin board so that management and labor knew what everyone was

(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so thatboth management and labor would know what everyone was

(E) saying that the schedule had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone had been

这道题以前有很多争论，有人说是D, 但大多数说是A，原因是must不能改成would have to.

我语法不好，但语感很强，第一次看到A就发现那个 it 用错。这个it不能代表前面那个schedule。前面那个schedule是指时间＝manager agreed to a more flexible work hour。后面那个it是日程表，是个实物=he said that the time sheet must be posted... 同是schedule, 两个meanings. 用了 it 就是最忌讳的代词指代问题。而且A中时态实在可疑，如果是 Although..., he said, "it must be...will...is" 还行。比起时态和代词问题，D中的would have to就是小问题了。欢迎讨论。

wycg

同意LZ的观点, D中写出了"the schedule",不得我觉得D比A好. 我觉得A时态有问题.

请大家讨论.

谢谢!!!

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xuedidage

I prefer A.    就算schedule=hour, it is not wrong to say 'my manager need to post our hours out for us'.  Hours 这里是 'it'.

(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so thatboth management and labor would know what everyone was

I don't think we can use was.  Because the schedule is going to posted and thus still in effect.  Therefore we must use present tense.  

  请指教

wycg

以下是引用xuedidage在2006-2-1 12:33:00的发言：

I prefer A.    就算schedule=hour, it is not wrong to say 'my manager need to post our hours out for us'.  Hours 这里是 'it'.

(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so thatboth management and labor would know what everyone was

I don't think we can use was.  Because the schedule is going to posted and thus still in effect.  Therefore we must use present tense.  

  请指教

可是was 用的并没有错, assign是在post只前发生,用一般过去时. 而post用的是过去将来时.  这是可以的.

jandjshi

D: would be posted...would know...sth was assigned. I don't see a problem here.

Answer A, "will know...sth is assigned", has the same tense structure as D, but verbs are shifted to present tense. Answer A would be correct if it uses direct speech, which must be quoted in double-quotation mark.

As I said, the real problem here is in the "it".  If you think thoroughly about it, how can you post the "hour" on the wall? You must put it on paper before you can post. If you translate the sentence to Chinese, then the problem does seem less obvious, but I can feel it the first time I read it.

Different opinions are welcomed!

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jandjshi

I spent a long time and tried to disprove myself. Here it is.

OG46.   A study commissioned by the Department of Agriculture showed that if calves exercise and associated with other calves, they will require less medication and gain weight quicker than do those raised in confinement.

(A) associated with other calves, they will require less medication and gain weight quicker than do

(B) associated with other calves, they require less medication and gain weight quicker than

(C) associate with other calves, they required less medication and will gain weight quicker than do

(D) associate with other calves, they have required less medication and will gain weight more quickly than do（E）

(E) associate with other calves, they require less medication and gain weight more quickly than

Verb tense shift, showed that…exercise and associate…, is used by ETS itself. I apologize for my mistake, and I must correct myself here. It seems to me that said that or showed that  can be followed by present tense to state a direct quote or a fact.

However, I stand behind my theory that D is the answer because the verb tense in D is in the correct indirect speech format, and D uses schedule instead of it.

欢迎大家反驳!

smileday

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yukovan

第一个schedule不可能是hour的意思，因为工作时间量应该是固定的，比如8小时，只是上下班的时间可以变化而已阿。

smileday

想想覺得C好,

因為指示的更清楚(assignment,assign to everyone),且主動.

madben

以是引?lt;i>jandjshi在2006-2-1 6:56:00的发言：

99. Although the manager agreed to a more flexible work schedule, he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is assigned to do.

(A) he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is

(B) he said it had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor knows what everyone is

(C) he said that they would have to post the assignments on the bulletin board so that management and labor knew what everyone was

(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so thatboth management and labor would know what everyone was

(E) saying that the schedule had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone had been

这道题以前有很多争论，有人说是D, 但大多数说是A，原因是must不能改成would have to.

我语法不好，但语感很强，第一次看到A就发现那个 it 用错。这个it不能代表前面那个schedule。前面那个schedule是指时间＝manager agreed to a more flexible work hour。后面那个it是日程表，是个实物=he said that the time sheet must be posted... 同是schedule, 两个meanings. 用了 it 就是最忌讳的代词指代问题。而且A中时态实在可疑，如果是 Although..., he said, "it must be...will...is" 还行。比起时态和代词问题，D中的would have to就是小问题了。欢迎讨论。

I also believe D is the correct answer but I don't think it in A has any problem. Work schedule means 工作的日程计划 and has nothing to do with time sheet.

In trictincy's  post (http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&replyID=1576029&id=168271&skin=0), he summarized the following:

must
助動詞
1.must(必須)作<情態助動詞>,相當於have to,但must強調主觀因素,而<have to>強調客觀因素。
I must go now.
我現在必須走。(我自己認為應該走了)
have to
助動詞
1.<have to>(必須)是<情態助動詞>,後接原形<動詞>,表示客觀條件決定不得不做某事。
I have to go now. (我現在不得不走了)

I don't think that "must" implies subjective while "have to" implies objective. I did some research and below is my finding.

http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/grammar/archive/mustvshaveto.html

Both must and have to can be used to speak about obligation or necessity:

• The doctor says I must stop smoking.
• The doctor says I have (got) to stop smoking.

This is only the case when we are referring to the present or future. When we speak about obligation or necessity in the past, we use have to.

• She had to stop running because she was exhausted.
• I had to pay a parking fine.

It is not possible to use must in this way.

因此，我认为这道题的正确答案就是D。

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