og 16-081 什么样才是不陈旧的表达？？

lawrence_yeung

81. The Olympic Games helped to keep peace among the pugnacious states of the Greek world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival's month.

(A) world in that a sacred truce was proclaimed during the festival's month

A选项不对，og解释为：in that太陈旧和过于正式了 ;festival's month 是一个awkward的所有格结构， 需改为month of the festival

跪求大神指导：1.为什么in that 的表达属于过于陈旧和正式？

2.festival's month 的awkward在哪里？怎么判断比较好？

lawrence_yeung

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Crystal_Chai

1. in that 的意思等于because，但是是很过时的表达，除非是很正式很正式的学术文章才会出现，现在一般不太会见到这样的表达方式（记住就好）
2. 也是一个native speaker才会一目了然的东西，你也记住就好，一般除非是人或者是有生命的东西才用 's 的表达方式。地道的英语只能用of，也就是month of festival

下面6楼会说的更明白一些、

vi.len

曼哈顿里面说，公开出版的题目中，百分之九十的有所有格的形式的选项都是错的，如果不是很能判断的出来需要用猜的话，那么就把有所有格形式的选项消除掉。

Crystal_Chai

vi.len 发表于 2016-7-31 11:55
曼哈顿里面说，公开出版的题目中，百分之九十的有所有格的形式的选项都是错的，如果不是很能判断的出来需要 ...

不能说的这么绝对的吧

Crystal_Chai

参考一道Prep 的题目，
The three women, liberal activists who strongly support legislation in favor of civil rights and environmental protection, have consistently received labor's unqualifying support.

A   have consistently received labor's unqualifying support
B   are consistently receiving the unqualifying support of labor
C   have consistently received the unqualified support of labor
D   receive consistent and unqualified support by labor
E   are receiving consistent and unqualified support by labor

A也是用了类似的's 的结构，当然，是错的。
关键是Ron在Manhattan Forum上面解释的非常好，我贴上来你看看。

(A) the issue here is just that "labor's unqualifying support" is just ridiculously awkward. this is one of those things that native speakers will understand almost instinctively, but that is nevertheless nearly impossible to explain to non-natives.

in general, i'm loath to use apostrophe + "s" for anything but humans, animals, and the like. this is definitely NOT a hard and fast rule, but i've noticed that it's fairly consistent across most usage.

thus, "an ape's vocal tract" is preferred to "the vocal tract of an ape", but "the colors of the mural" is better than "the mural's colors".
"labor" is not a living thing. The term here refers to the working class or unionized sector of the economy.


in general, if you get to pick between the apostrophe+s construction and the "of" construction, and the possessor isn't a living thing, i'd go with the latter.

but by all means try to eliminate based on other things first.（言下之意就是不要一上来就根据 's 来排除！先去看看有没有别的更明显的错误）

Crystal_Chai

vi.len 发表于 2016-7-31 11:55
曼哈顿里面说，公开出版的题目中，百分之九十的有所有格的形式的选项都是错的，如果不是很能判断的出来需要 ...

请看6楼。

lawrence_yeung

Crystal_Chai 发表于 2016-7-31 12:01
参考一道Prep 的题目，
The three women, liberal activists who strongly support legislation in favor o ...

非常感谢！很清楚！
但是想问labour不是劳工的意思吗？是什么意思？

Crystal_Chai

lawrence_yeung 发表于 2016-7-31 12:27
非常感谢！很清楚！
但是想问labour不是劳工的意思吗？是什么意思？

The term here refers to the working class or unionized sector of the economy.
指的是一个阶层。

vi.len

Crystal_Chai 发表于 2016-7-31 12:04
请看6楼。

看到了，谢谢你。我在Manhattan上面看到的也是类似的意思，我的意思是如果一定只能靠猜的话，那优先排除所有格的形式。总之还是谢谢你，让我又理解透彻了一点。