OG 16 SC#10关于比较结构、平行、倒装的疑问。

qingqing8982

Edgar_Chan 发表于 2015-11-5 16:40
我想问一下，A中为啥会理解成the research subjects had likelihood to a greater degree的？ ...

同问 求解答~

小馄饨claire

求问，如果E中的likely变成了likelihood那是不是E就对了？

shufenliu

我觉得这里的倒装是optional的，例如：
The closer an object is to another object, the greater is the gravity between the two objects.
The closer an object is to another object, the greater the gravity is between the two objects.

所以这句话也可以写成： the more coffee these doctors drank, the greater likelihood was. 由于likelihood后面的修饰部分太长，所以将was倒装到前面来了。另外一个判断点就是likelihood只能用greater来形容，不能用more。

猪小王

yxlrei 发表于 2015-8-25 05:31
我认为(D)并不是最优的形式，下面这个符合你提到的平行要求：

the more likely they are to have coronary ...

不太同意层主的解释。

我认为the more..., the more ...甚至所有的comparison句型，看重的是比较内容的平行。
OG对于选项B的解释特别好，告诉我们"more"的两种用法：
1. 作为adverb，indicates a greater degree or extent in phrases such as "more (adv.) likely (adv.)"
2. 作为adjective, indicates greater quantity in phrases such as "more (adj.) coffee (noun)"

鉴于1，即more作为副词，层主把句子改为the more likely they are to have ...这个改法比较的是more coffee和more likely， 不但more的属性变了，coffee和likely也不平行。只是看上去似乎都用more而已。
而答案D才是比较上的平行：coffee (noun) vs. likelihood (noun), more (adj.) vs. greater (adj.)

所以，D无论在意思上还是结构上都是更好的选择。

如果有不同意见，欢迎讨论。

轩辕aa

请问一下 their可以指代前面的 these doctors么

physicslee

Edgar_Chan 发表于 2015-11-5 16:40
我想问一下，A中为啥会理解成the research subjects had likelihood to a greater degree的？ ...

同问，在语义上A和D的区别？

瑞sherry

猪小王 发表于 2017-3-5 12:03
不太同意层主的解释。

我认为the more..., the more ...甚至所有的comparison句型，看重的是比较内容的 ...

完全同意你的解释。more做副词修饰likely，前面more coffee的more是much的比较级，是形容词，修饰coffee。

gezi

我个人的理解是，前半部分不是“ doctors drank” 而是 “coffee these doctors drank” 这样看来的话就是一句倒装句了。the more coffee these doctors drank 正过来应该是 these doctors drank more coffee'
而后一句 the greater was their likelihood of having coronary disease 正过来是 the likelihood of having ... was greater.
也就是说前后两句都是倒装句，语法结构上是平行的

黄苏打

Monzki 发表于 2015-8-24 21:27
在RON的视频中有看到关于平行结构中helping word的用法。情态动词在平行结构中可以放在主语前。
有以下几个 ...

同意！               

黄苏打

其他地方看到的~觉得解释的很清楚~
A: the more coffee these doctors drank, the more they had
C: the more coffee these doctors drank, the more they would have
Here, these doctors drank is an ADJECTIVE serving to describe coffee.
What KIND of coffee?
coffee THESE DOCTORS DRANK.
Thus, coffee these doctors drank = NOUN + MODIFIER.
But each of the portions in red consists of SUBJECT + VERB.
Result:
NOUN + MODIFIER (coffee these doctors drank) and SUBJECT + VERB (the two portions in red) are not parallel.
Eliminate A and C.

B: the more was their likelihood
Here, more seems to refer to likelihood.
likelihood = probability = a NUMBER.
A number cannot be MORE.
A number can only be GREATER.
Eliminate B.

E: the greater was coronary disease
Here, greater seems to refer to coronary disease, implying that CORONARY DISEASE was GREATER.
Not the intended meaning.
The intended meaning is that the LIKELIHOOD of coronary disease was greater.
Eliminate E.