长江2005学费22万RMB

hurma

正在申请或准备申请长江的朋友们，要仔细掂量掂量袋子里的银子够不够？此外还要想想，长江的PROGRAM是怎么在一年里IMPROVE了50%的。（其学费一年里长涨了50%！）

http://www.ckgsb.com/proj_mba/index_mba.php?btn_id=6

hurma

以下是引用grossman在2005-2-17 0:33:00的发言：

With the exception of London Business School and Insead, Europe does not have any good business schools. Insead has been around for only 40 years.

CK cannot compete with the US top 25 business schools now. However, in the near future, with the commitment of Li Ka-Shin foundation, CKGSB should be comparable with reasonable US public schools such as Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State.

If you can get in LBS, Insead or top 25 US schools, then you should go there. If you get admitted in schools such as OSU, PSU, MSU, then CK could be a better choice for some people.

Again, I do not think we should feel so inferior relative to US or Europe. Yes, we are not as good now in terms of our economy. However, we need to put things in perspective and do not be short-sighted. China had enoyed a superior economy in most of the last two thousand years with the exception of the last three hundred. If China keeps developing at the current speed, we should be an equal player with US and Europe in about fifty years. Remember, it took Han Dynasty 70 years to develop and eventually beat the Huns out of Northern China. Europeans and Americans will be humming to come over to China to study then.

What I like about CK is its ambition, self-respect and self-confidence. CK's root is in china and it demands all the permanent faculties to spend 100% of their time in China. We Chinese are as good as Europeans or Americans. With a good system, we can perform as well. We can. We must. We will. Of course, Rome is not built overnight and only time will tell if CK is successful.

For people who think 220,000 RMB is too high, you probably should contact the admissions office to see if there could be help with scholarships or zero-interest loans. US schools oftern provide student loans or scholarships for qualified individuals.

honestly and personally, i do think these words make some senses to some extends, at least for the good English expression and logic reasoning...haha...

the problem is that he/she stands for a completely wrong position, which is so called CK...haha...my dear, share with you the following words,

出师未捷身先死,长使英雄泪满巾.

hurma

有关认证的问题。

看了前面的讨论，好像关于商学院认证的说法很多，自己也有点不知所以；正好今天有点空，就上网查了一下，以下是我查到的结果，希望与大家分享。

1/ 有关教育部的认证

看了一下教育部的网站，没有发现相关的名单；再查“国务院学位委员会”，这个机构性质：“国务院学位委员会办公室是国务院学位委员会的日常办事机构，统筹规划并归口管理全国的学位与研究生教育工作，设在教育部，与教育部学位管理与研究生教育司、教育部学位办公室、“211工程”办公室合署办公，同时承担《亚太地区相互承认高等教育学历、文凭、学位公约》中国国家级执行机构的工作。”看来应该就是这个机构在从事教育部的学位认证工作。

有关已经被认证的“授予国外学位与香港特别行政区学位的合作办学在办项目名单”（截止2004年6月30日），大家可以参见前面出现过的链接：http://www.jsj.edu.cn/mingdan/002.html。因为截止2004年6月，所以没有长江，可以理解。

下面是中欧和长江各自的审批文件
中欧： http://www.ceibs.edu/news/2002/images/0201_degree.gif
长江：http://www.ckgsb.com/upload/image/article/10474785544.jpg

一个是“同意”，另一个是“批准”，究竟其中有没有区别？大家可以自己判断。我的看法是，对于中欧这样的独立的中外合作办学机构，教育很难出示所谓“批准”的文件，中欧也不会这样申请。所以，尽管用词为“同意”，但并不意味着教育部仍未公开承认中欧颁布的MBA学位，中欧也断无再次申请所谓教育部“批准”学位的道理。对于长江，其官方网站称这个“批准”是“国家教育部门首次批准中外合作办学机构独立颁发中国的高等教育学位”，其中“首次”是否确实，无从考证；但是至少从认证文件来看，看不出任何“中外合作办学”的痕迹，所以这一点是很令人起疑的。（当然不排除国务院学位委员会从来不会“批准”中外合作办学机构独立颁布的学位的可能，这样长江若是给自己按上“中外合作办学”的头衔，也就成就了这个“首次”。)

2/ 有关EQUIS的认证

前面的一些发言一直让我很迷惑，怎么可能EQUIS认证的机构连“一个手都数不过来”？我经常在FT上看到一些著名商学院的招生广告，很多商学院都会把这个认证拿出来作招牌。看了一下EQUIS的官方网站：
http://www.efmd.org/html/Accreditations/cont_detail.asp?id=040929rpku&aid=041029wupz&tid=1
上面明确说明：“EQUIS has accredited 82 institutions in 28 countries. ”。而且，EQUIS虽然起源于欧洲，但它已经逐步发展成为一个在国际范围内被认可的重要的认证体系，并且有越来越多的欧洲以外的学位被认证，中欧的MBA应该就是其中的一家。

看来这里有些片面的观点着实让人很担心。