BW上对16所top schools的评论

icemountain

Not to initiate a heated discussion, but what do you guys think of these b-school stereotypes? I am sure most of you have seen this, it is a popular mass email among the MBA students. Most people tend to agree on these and think they are pretty spot-on. What are your thoughts?

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1.) Harvard - Pros: The best academic brand in the world, people from East Timor will know where you went to school. Graduates are extremely polished and dynamic leaders. its no coincidence that so many politicians these days are HBS grads.  
Cons: Students are about as pompous and pretentious as possible. Polish is a fancy way of saying full of s**t. its no coincidence that so many politicians these days are HBS grads.  

2.) Stanford - Pros: Small class size and focus on do-gooders leads to an incredible array of backgrounds and accomplishments of students, who thrive in tight knit community. Haven for the really interesting superstars out there. Tremendous brand. Beautiful weather.  
Cons: It may be interesting to be classmates with a Buddhist monk-fighter pilot, but its also hard to relate to anyone ("So, did that vow of peace make it hard to take out bogeys?"). For super accomplished business students with the world at their fingertips, it sure doesn't seem like any of them actually like business.  

3.) Wharton - Pros: Arguably the best technical business education in the world. Great brand name, and the job placements are second only to H/S.
Cons: Not sure if it's the ultra rigorous curriculum, the competitive culture, or the fact that they have to live in Philly for two years, but Whartonites are paranoid bordering on psychotic. The odds of having a nervous breakdown in your life triple after going here. Double that if you actually ask anyone at Wharton to calculate those odds.  

4.) Northwestern - Pros: Strong team culture and arguably the best marketing program in the country. Incredibly collaborative for such a large school. Great location next to major financial center ( Chicago ).  
Cons: Very soft curriculum, these guys are poets. I'm pretty sure that Kellogg finance classes are prerecorded cartoons taught by Disney characters. Is it really worth it to pay $10000+ to drink every night? I mean, couldn't you just do that without the degree?  

5.) Chicago - Pros: Finance education is second only to Wharton globally (and even that's debatable). Probably the best facilities of all the top business schools. Fantastic job placements and close proximity to Chicago . Academic horsepower of profs is untouchable.  
Cons: Socially awkward is an understatement. Unlike Whartonites who are just high strung, Chicago GSBers either never learned or quickly forgot how to communicate with peers. Make sure to wear a face mask if they're talking to you 'cause spits going to fly.  

6.) Columbia - Pros: Great location in the middle of global financial center ( New York ). Most diverse student body in terms of minorities and women. Very strong finance program. New York allows great social and job placement opportunities, and draws worldly, cosmopolitan students.  
Cons: Cliquish and commuterish. Columbia is like a high school with super rich kids. High ***hole factor. This isn't the kind of school where you'll be going to house parties, its more like the kind of school where you're expected to order bottle service for twenty guys on a student budget or else be ostracized.  


7.) MIT - Pros: World class entrepreneurship program, and probably the best supply management program in America . Attached to world class research center, and location in Boston is strong. Great job placement, especially in consulting.  
Cons: For all their unique academic offerings, the overall school is like 90/10 men/women including undergrads. Takes the term sausage fest to a whole new level. Nerdy culture.  

8.) Tuck -Pros: Small class size and tight culture leads to maybe the most enthusiastic students in any school. Great respect from recruiters. Alumni network is arguably the most responsive and helpful of any top school. Strong rigorous program.  
Cons: Very conformist culture, and really limited social options. These guys seem so enthusiastic about their school that I'm almost certain that all students are given ecstasy at orientation. Listen, if two years in the middle of Nowhere, New Hampshire were to constitute the best two years of my life, I would kill myself.  

9.) Michigan - Pros: Maybe the most hands-on practical curriculum of all the top schools. New facilities coming up in 2009. Largest alumni network of any business school. State school, so the 2nd year is cheaper.  
Cons: Location proximity leaves something to be desired ( Detroit ? Why not put it next to Beirut ). The overall atmosphere here is very fratty and college like. Every single UMich student and alumni I've spoken to say the highlight of their experience was tailgating and watching football. EVERYONE. Not that football isn't awesome, but no one else had any other experience that was noteworthy? They probably forgot the rest after beerbonging Jagermeister.  

10.) Haas - Pros: Great location in the bay, and strong ties to Silicon Valley . Great weather. Small class size and tight culture. Berkeley has very strong international brand name.  
Cons: Weak ties to financial sector, and east coast in general. The culture here is definitely about as PC as it gets. This seems like the type of school where you'd need to get a permission slip before you held a woman's hand on campus.  

11.) Duke - Pros: Maybe the best health care management program in the country. Great brand name, especially in the south. Strong team culture.
Cons: Relatively young MBA program, so alumni network is small. As such, the brand cache just isn't there yet. People that come here seem very cookie cutter to me, not in a bad way, just very comfortable and relatively unambitious.  

12.) Darden - Pros: Strong Case method program and rigorous curriculum is universally respected. Alumni network is very strong and active with current students.  
Cons: Middle of nowhere. Intellectual horsepower not as strong at a lot of the other top schools.

13.) NYU - Pros: Great location within spitting distance of Wall Street. Strong finance curriculum, and media program.
Cons: Location in downtown Manhattan make this the ultimate commuter school. Weird inferiority complex with Columbia . If you don't go into finance or media, good luck.  

14.) UCLA - Pros: LA! Sun, beach, beautiful glamorous people everywhere! Strong ties to Southern California business and great real estate program.
Cons: LA. UV rays, crowded beaches and shallow, materialistic people everywhere. You get the feeling that UCLA students are there just to spend two years in SoCal rather than to get jobs. As such, this place draws vapid, materialistic people. But damn they're hot!  

15.) Cornell - Pros: Maybe the best Hospitality management program in the country. Ivy league brand name, and strong ties to some top consumer management companies. Small tight knit culture.  
Cons: In the middle of nowhere, and it's definitely a cut below a lot of the top tier programs. I mean, hospitality management? Seriously?

16.) Yale - Pros: World class brand name. Arguably the best social enterprise program in the country. Relatively strong job placement for the rank.
Cons: Newer program means little real rep with employers or alumni to lean on.

pega09

nice and helpful information! thanks

juniesunie

funny guy...

icemountain

还有更funny的：

I love this stuff.  Too bad you left out the office space characters. 

Harvard: Lumbergh (Peter’s hated boss). He’s a quintessential Harvard grad; in charge and full of platitudes that sound great but on further inspection don’t make any sense. He also drives a nice car and makes a lot of money while being universally loathed. Kind of sums up every HBS grad you’ve ever met, right?

Stanford: Peter (main character). He seems like the most level headed, likable and down to earth of any of the characters, but for all his talents, he ends up as a damn construction worker. He’s also a major league flake, showing up to work only when he feels like it. Can you say entitled?

Wharton: Tom Smykowski (Co-worker that invents “jumping to conclusions mat”). I’m assuming that Tom was actually an excellent technical employee, but that his constant fear of losing his job made him batsh*t crazy. Most fitting quote “I’m a People Person!!!!!!” when yelling at the consultants.

Kellogg: Joanna (Peter’s girlfriend). Like Peter, she’s very likable, level headed and likes to get around. Unfortunately she’s also vastly less skilled than many of her fellow characters. Thank God she’s hot.

Chicago: Milton (Co-worker that loves red swingline stapler). Milton seems like a nice enough guy, and he might be the smartest guy in the office (he pulls off the grand caper in the end). It’s just that he’s about as charismatic as a toilet bowl. Hire ‘em, just make sure to get GSBers an office in the basement.

Columbia: Bobs (consultants that lay off workers). They seem smart, they have great jobs, but c’mon, these guys are douchebags.

MIT: Michael Bolton (Peter’s co-worker and friend). Michael Bolton desperately wants to be cool, listening to rap music, talking in slang, but lets face it, he’s a dork. He’s also hampered by his dorky namesake, which seems to attract a lot of nerdy people (to his obvious dismay).

Tuck: Brian (Works with Joannas at Chotchkies, wears 37 pieces of flair). Brian is well meaning and LOVES his job. Never mind that he’s a waiter at a glorified TGIF, he still loves it with all his heart. They say ignorance is bliss, in which case, maybe Tuckies have the secret after all. That or, like Brian, they’re borderline retarded.

Michigan: Lawrence (Peter’s next door neighbor and friend).   Lawrence is a good guy. He’s loyal, and salt of the earth. He also has a few rough edges, and would use 1 million dollars to be intimate with two other women. Have a great time with old Lawrence . Just don’t be surprised if all you end up with is a job he hooked you up with at the local quarry.

Haas: Stan (Joanna’s manager at Chotchkies). Stan wants Joanna to do more than the bare minimum. After all, people can get an MBA anywhere, but they come to Chotckies/Haas for the atmosphere! Don’t you want to do more than the bare minimum? Then put on your flair, burn some bras and save a whale you selfish jerk.

Duke: Samir (Peter’s co-worker and friend). Samir is a nice guy, very practical and unassuming. You get the feeling that he’s happy as long as he has a job in hand. Won’t make waves, won’t screw up, and won’t take any risks. But he’s a happy guy, and will have a house with 2.2 kids and a dog in a suburb somewhere (probably Durham ).

Darden: Anne (Peter’s ex-girlfriend who was cheating on him). Anne just seemed really high maintenance and uptight. You try doing twenty cases a week for a year and see what happens to you. Just don’t be surprised if it’s a bigger bi**h than you imagined.

Stern: Other Lumbergh (ex-co-worker of Peter, Joanna’s ex-boyfriend). From all accounts, the other Lumbergh was a likable guy who was good at his job and got a great job offer to move on somewhere else. We just never actually saw him. Kind of like your NYU classmates.

UCLA: Drew (Peter’s co-worker, describes the famous “O-face”). Drew’s a fun-loving guy that people like. He’s also the kind of guy that would tell anyone who was willing to listen graphic descriptions of all his sexual exploits. I liked Drew when I was 19. When I’m 26….?

Cornell: Peggy (Lumbergh’s secretary). She’s kind of in hospitality: “Initech, can I put you on hold? Thank you! Initech, can I put you on hold? Thank you! Initech, can I put you on hold? Thank you! …”

Yale: Dr. Swanson (Peter’s psychologist/hypnotist). The Dr. has a very strong reputation, and he makes Peter go from depressed to happy (what a do-gooder!). But when it comes to the rankings, he just falls over dead.  

juniesunie

Thank God, She's hot~~~hh

amy1212

dreambirds

lol...

vincent007

看看这个

美国名校另类解读：福布斯大学排行榜的新视觉

福布斯的美国大学排行榜，对希望留学美国的学生和家长影响很大，有时甚至是起到了灯塔或航标的作用。曾有很多人写文章对排行榜提出质疑，但排行榜根植与人们心中的影响却一直挥之不去。直到近日发现一则好文，希望读者对排行榜有一个新的认识。原文是由美国的ALEX写的一篇博客文章，大意是将美国大学MBA 排行榜与世界名车对应起来，使人们对大学排行榜有了一个的认识。ALEX所列的对应关系如下：

哈佛大学商学院 宾利

斯坦福大学商学院兰博基尼

宾夕法尼亚大学沃顿商学院保时捷

芝加哥大学布斯商学院沃尔沃

西北大学凯洛格商学院大众

麻省理工学院斯隆商学院奥迪

哥伦比亚大学商学院 宝马

达特茅斯学院塔克商学院萨博

这个对应关系令人眼前一亮。我们都知道宾利是好车、兰博基尼也是好车，那么大众、奥迪是不是好车哪？人们肯定会说当然不是。那么人们心目中的好车，是不是应该最优秀的人士的最爱哪？

比如说，世界首富巴菲特一定是宾利的车主，比尔盖茨拥有好几部兰博基尼，美国总统布什更是将两者统统收归名下。事实上巴菲特开的是林肯，比尔盖茨的座驾是奔驰（另外还有一辆老式保时捷），布什也没有拥有两款车的任何一部。

为什么富豪、名人都没有选择人们心目中的好车哪？是好车太昂贵了吗？我们知道，巴菲特和比尔盖茨都是当今世界最顶级富豪，每人旗下的财富都在几百亿美元，顶多百万美元的一部车对他们来说确实不算什么，显然钱不是一个决定因素。其决定因素应该是他们觉得不合适，不合适的理由很多，只有本人才能说得清楚，所以人们普遍认为的好车对某个个人来说，不一定就是最好或最合适。

再举一个例子，宾利或兰博基尼是不是普通爱车族最爱哪？显然也不是。因为一是买不起二是养不起三是用不起，昂贵的好车对普通爱车族来说不仅不是最爱，简直就是累赘。而相对经济、实用的大众或奥迪则很容易博得他们的青睐。

那么谁是宾利、兰博基尼的车主哪？有一条可以肯定，该车的车主一定希望很多人投来羡慕的眼光。看，我拥有的是世界最顶级的名车。

现在我们把宾利、兰博希尼换成哈佛大学、斯坦福大学，把巴菲特、比尔盖茨换成甲同学、乙同学。

既然巴菲特没有看中宾利，比尔盖茨也没有选择兰博基尼，那么当然甲同学也可以不选哈佛，乙同学也可以放弃斯坦福。甲同学为什么不选人们普遍认为最好的哈佛大学哪？因为甲同学对华尔街有兴趣，所以选择了对自己更合适的沃顿商学院，而乙同学一心想从政、进国会所以选择了克林顿的母校乔治城大学。对甲同学和乙同学来说，虽然哈佛、斯坦福的名气虽大，在排行榜中占用绝对领先的位置，但并不是自己兴趣或意愿的所在。

现在我们应该清楚了，选校如同选车，完全是一个个性化的问题，适合的就是最好的。

既然世界名车宾利、兰博希尼，没有被巴菲特和比尔盖茨看好（不是因为能力有限），

福布斯排行榜上的名校哈佛、斯坦福也可以不作为你的首选（因为不是你的兴趣所在）。

那么，开自己喜欢的车，上自己喜欢的学就好了。没有必要为赢得某些人所谓的羡慕而成为排行榜的牺牲品。

juniesunie

就没有别的学校的比喻啦？哈哈。

我很喜欢奔驰车。可惜西北大学凯洛格商学院太牛了。

我还是选个国产？hh

proudking

达特茅斯学院塔克商学院萨博

这个比喻我觉得非常贴切