with。。。状语&独立主格

renxiaoyujc

首先两个问题：
1.同一个独立主格，加上with和不加，意思完全没有改变。。是吗？ 然后独立主格放在句首和句尾都可以吗？
2. 都说其实独立主格算是一种状语。可是看其他的帖子说，with引导的状语只有在表原因的时候可以没有逻辑主语。其他表伴随等都是需要逻辑主语的。也就是要去其他句子中找它的逻辑主语。 但是独立主格可以表原因，表伴随等等，而独立主格都不需要逻辑状语的啊。 这就决定了我们有时候选with结构考不考虑逻辑主语= =晕啊


我lost


参考贴：http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-604016-1-1.html?postid=15495179&searchmode=TopicContent&searchtext=with


其中例子：
Onaccount of a law passed in 1933, making it a crime punishable by imprisonmentthat a United States citizen hold gold in the form of bullion or coins,immigrants found that on arrival in the United States they had to surrender allof the gold they had brought with them.
A.       On account of a lawpassed in 1933, making it a crime punishable by imprisonment that a UnitedStates citizen hold
B.       With a law passed in1933 that makes it a crime punishable by imprisonment that a United States citizenhold
C.       A law passed in 1933that made it a crime punishable by imprisonment for a United States citizenholding
D.       Because of a law passedin 1933 making it a crime punishable by imprisonment for a United Statescitizen to hold    （D）         (D)
E.        Due to a law beingpassed in 1933 that makes it a crime punishable by imprisonment for a UnitedStates citizen to hold

b选项我觉得理解成独立主格就好了啊也不需要考虑什么逻辑主语。


而且很多with结构其中是noun+modifier，这种时候，这个noun怎么找逻辑主语啊？


比如：Child care already a solidpart of the employee benefits package at many companies, more businesses are focusing on a newer familybenefit known as elder care, servicing for older dependents.

(A) Child care

(B) With child care

(C) Child care as

(D) Being the Child care was  （B）

(E) With child care’s being



我觉得AB作为独立主格，都可以啊。完全说得过去的。理解不了。。。


求NN赐教啊。。

泾渭不凡

首先两个问题：
1.同一个独立主格，加上with和不加，意思完全没有改变。。是吗？ 然后独立主格放在句首和句尾都可以吗？

-- by 会员 renxiaoyujc (2012/4/13 21:22:48)

我觉得是不可以，至少是不可以随便删除with~，援引08语法笔记的题目及解析做支撑哈~

prep-part1-190
The thirteen original British colonies in North America, some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter that set forth its form of government and the rights of the colonists.

A.some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, each had a written charter

B.some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all of which had written charters

C.some that formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens, all had written charters

D.with some being formed as a commercial venture, others as religious havens, all had a written charter(A)

E.with some formed as commercial ventures, while others as religious havens, each had a written charter
考点：

1.独立主格，表示伴随，所以必须修饰主谓宾结构，而非主系表结构。

独立主格三种形式：

1)一般形式（独立部分与主句部分无太多关联）n.+n.，n.+V-ed/v-ing，n.+介词短语/形容词短语

2)with形式（与主句主语有紧密的逻辑关系）：with+宾语+宾补，如：with+n.+v-ed/v-ing/介词短语/形容词短语

3)each形式（必须前面有复数名词）： each+v-ed/v-ing，each+介词短语/形容词短语，each+n.+介词短语

*：with型独立主格在GMAT中常常被判累赘。
选项分析：A.Correct；some formed as commercial ventures, others as religious havens做为the thirteen original British colonies in North America的同位语，each为the thirteen original British colonies的同位语

B.Being多余；all与后面的its 单复形式不统一；全句缺少谓语动词

C.some that formed结构中some在定语从句中做主语，主动行使form动作错误（补丁一：殖民地被成立，所以说不能用主动“形成，成立”）；all与后面的its 单复形式不统一

D.with的存在使得some并不是指代colonies，而是与colonies相关的东西；all与后面的its单复形式不统一；这里with并没有夹心修饰的歧义，因为all/each和colonies是同一样东西，所以向前向后修饰逻辑上都一样（夹心修饰见prep 1-207补充说明）。

E.with的存在使得some不是指代colonies，而是与colonies相关的东西；while多余，因为后面的others as religious havens中没有谓语动词，while必须省(如果有谓语动词则不能省，如Some cleaned the windows, while others mopped the floor)。
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请看粉粉的部分哈，我觉得亲主要是想判别“with结构的独立主格”和“一般形式的独立主格”的关系。
此题虽然不选择E，但是E的解释说明了with是有其特殊的含义的，记得with是表示“拥有，所有”的意思在里面的~
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