求助曼哈顿上的一个语法点，急急急！！！

stlibai

求助曼哈顿上的一个语法点，急急急！！！
Subgroup Modifiers

When you want to describe a part of a larger group with a modifier, use one of the following
three Subgroup Modifier constructions.

Right: This model explains all known subatomic particles, SOME OFWHICH
WEREonly recently discovered.
Right: This model explains all known subatomic particles, SOME OFTHEM
only recently discovered.
Right: This model explains all known subatomic particles, SOME only recently
discovered.



请教一下NN，红线的句子为什么them后面不加are阿？虽然读起来好通顺阿！！！

DUKB24

no distinction except that the first is much wordier than the second

huangxuebin

我还有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 2:18:51)

yes，u r right

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/9 8:20:07)

不好意思~
再问你一个~
Right:They are AS hungry AS you are.
Right:They are AS hungry AS you.
有什么区别么?

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 11:03:29)

1. They are hungry and you are hungry.
2. They are hungry and they are you.(逻辑不对吧。)

stlibai

我还有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 2:18:51)

yes，u r right

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/9 8:20:07)

不好意思~
再问你一个~
Right:They are AS hungry AS you are.
Right:They are AS hungry AS you.
有什么区别么?

DUKB24

我还有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 2:18:51)

yes，u r right

stlibai

我还有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

stlibai

我还是想追问一下:
Right: His head held high, Owen walked out of the store
Right: Owen walked out of the store, his head held high.
Right: Owen walked out of the store with his head held high.

这三种都是独立主格吧,那前两种和同位语从句有什么区别啊,我比较混乱阿!!!
还有第三句with his head held high还是做伴随状语的吧，那和前面两种有什么区别阿！！！

nn们~来抢答吧！！！

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/8 23:44:47)

you should use the context to determine


when a modifier is to provide some different things，then it should be an absolute phrase
when a modifier is to explain something ，then it should be an appositive modifier


The lady, our president, spoke out against racism.（apppsitive）


Tom paled when he came home, his mother standing in the
doorway.（absolute）


If they are exactly the same thing（just presented in different form；the lady is also the president），then it should be appositive


otherwise，absolute

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/8 23:53:45)

再问你一个~
Right:They are AS hungry AS you are.
Right:They are AS hungry AS you.
有什么区别么?

stlibai

thx!

DUKB24

我还是想追问一下:
Right: His head held high, Owen walked out of the store
Right: Owen walked out of the store, his head held high.
Right: Owen walked out of the store with his head held high.

这三种都是独立主格吧,那前两种和同位语从句有什么区别啊,我比较混乱阿!!!
还有第三句with his head held high还是做伴随状语的吧，那和前面两种有什么区别阿！！！

nn们~来抢答吧！！！

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/8 23:44:47)

you should use the context to determine


when a modifier is to provide some different things，then it should be an absolute phrase
when a modifier is to explain something ，then it should be an appositive modifier


The lady, our president, spoke out against racism.（apppsitive）


Tom paled when he came home, his mother standing in the
doorway.（absolute）


If they are exactly the same thing（just presented in different form；the lady is also the president），then it should be appositive


otherwise，absolute

stlibai

我还是想追问一下:
Right: His head held high, Owen walked out of the store
Right: Owen walked out of the store, his head held high.
Right: Owen walked out of the store with his head held high.

这三种都是独立主格吧,那前两种和同位语从句有什么区别啊,我比较混乱阿!!!
还有第三句with his head held high还是做伴随状语的吧，那和前面两种有什么区别阿！！！

nn们~来抢答吧！！！