呼唤斑竹，快来看看啊。啊。啊。 关于 that 限制性，非限制性从句指代问题

chasedream321

在prep2008中Practice Test2 168题中The first shots of the American Revolution, fired at Lexington and Concord, Massachusetts, were, according to legend, heard around the world, but news of these shots, which were sent by swift messenger, took four days in reaching New York City as well as another additional eleven days to reach Charleston, South Carolina.

B选项shots that was sent by swift messenger took four days in order to reach New York City, and also another eleven days

作者的解释是用了限定性定语从句修饰news，意思就是“信使所遣送的射击”，错误  即 that修饰了介词of后面的shots,非news。
但在171题中Marconi's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone, a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite, a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

C选项  Marconi conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become  作者解释是 That跳跃修饰a tool(定语从句的引导词指代是可以根据逻辑跳跃不复杂的介宾短语)由于介词词组要紧跟其修饰对象，避免产生歧义，就把that从句放后面
所以我很疑惑，that究竟是应该就是核心词还是就近修饰。求NN指点。- -   另外我对限制性和非限制级从句不是很明白，求指点啊。

chasedream321

umm...
1. 先建立这个思维: 是否跳跃修饰完全是根据逻辑含义的，但是关系代词的跳跃修饰、指代对象一定不能离得太远. 然后用题目验证并熟练这个思维.
2. 限制性和非限制性在笔记07和08里都有介绍，可以search下.

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/8/10 9:49:15)

好，谢谢斑竹~~。那是不是意思是说只能按照关系代词修饰对象不能太远来判断逻辑修饰与语法修饰是否冲突呀？

-- by 会员 chasedream321 (2011/8/10 13:02:32)

对~~
当然关于定语从句上会发生的错误还有很多：比如定语从句里面谓语是单数形式，而定从关系代词逻辑上合理指代的对象是复数，那么定从中就错了。
又比如："B选项news of shots that was sent by swift messenger took four days in order to reach New York City, and also another eleven days"，为什么说that was sent by的that修饰news，而不是shot，两个原因：1. shots（射击）无法被sent到纽约城  2. that定从中的谓语是was单数，不能修饰shots复数。

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/8/11 8:01:50)

额，谢谢斑竹。不过按你说的两个原因，不正好说明逻辑与语法上一致，修饰news么，那这个意思应该是“信使所遣送的消息”，而不是你原先解释的“信使所遣送的射击”诶。B选项错误应该只能解释为wordy吧？

aeoluseros

umm...
1. 先建立这个思维: 是否跳跃修饰完全是根据逻辑含义的，但是关系代词的跳跃修饰、指代对象一定不能离得太远. 然后用题目验证并熟练这个思维.
2. 限制性和非限制性在笔记07和08里都有介绍，可以search下.

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/8/10 9:49:15)

好，谢谢斑竹~~。那是不是意思是说只能按照关系代词修饰对象不能太远来判断逻辑修饰与语法修饰是否冲突呀？

-- by 会员 chasedream321 (2011/8/10 13:02:32)

对~~
当然关于定语从句上会发生的错误还有很多：比如定语从句里面谓语是单数形式，而定从关系代词逻辑上合理指代的对象是复数，那么定从中就错了。
又比如："B选项news of shots that was sent by swift messenger took four days in order to reach New York City, and also another eleven days"，为什么说that was sent by的that修饰news，而不是shot，两个原因：1. shots（射击）无法被sent到纽约城  2. that定从中的谓语是was单数，不能修饰shots复数。

chasedream321

umm...
1. 先建立这个思维: 是否跳跃修饰完全是根据逻辑含义的，但是关系代词的跳跃修饰、指代对象一定不能离得太远. 然后用题目验证并熟练这个思维.
2. 限制性和非限制性在笔记07和08里都有介绍，可以search下.

-- by 会员 aeoluseros (2011/8/10 9:49:15)

好，谢谢斑竹~~。那是不是意思是说只能按照关系代词修饰对象不能太远来判断逻辑修饰与语法修饰是否冲突呀？

chasedream321

http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-499613-1-1.html?SearchText=跳跃修饰
发现一个这个贴～你去看看把；

-- by 会员 balapupu (2011/8/8 16:40:46)

好，谢谢啦~~~

aeoluseros

umm...
1. 先建立这个思维: 是否跳跃修饰完全是根据逻辑含义的，但是关系代词的跳跃修饰、指代对象一定不能离得太远. 然后用题目验证并熟练这个思维.
2. 限制性和非限制性在笔记07和08里都有介绍，可以search下.

balapupu

http://forum.chasedream.com/GMAT_SC/thread-499613-1-1.html?SearchText=跳跃修饰
发现一个这个贴～你去看看把；

balapupu

哈哈～～～这个标题劲爆·～

chasedream321

叫斑竹呀。、、

-- by 会员 balapupu (2011/8/8 13:39:23)

哇哈哈，已经去他们主页留言了。不知道会不会鸟我。

balapupu

叫斑竹呀。、、