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but和but also啥区别?

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发表于 2012-10-24 09:56:59 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
前者表示转折,后者表示并列?
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沙发
发表于 2012-10-24 10:34:46 | 只看该作者
nope

but also can be construed as contrast   if used alone


it will only show the meaning of reinforcing each other if used together with not only


I am not quite sure the split between but vs but also


both can be used to convey contrast


do you have any example between this split?
板凳
发表于 2012-10-24 10:35:09 | 只看该作者
nope

but also can be construed as contrast   if used alone


it will only show the meaning of reinforcing each other if used together with not only


I am not quite sure the split between but vs but also


both can be used to convey contrast


do you have any example between this split?
地板
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-24 10:42:40 | 只看该作者
I meant to used them alone, not to associate with some other term. I have an example, but one example could be actually misleading, as one example could only show one way of use.
5#
发表于 2012-10-24 10:47:27 | 只看该作者
you mean this one?

197. (31514-!-item-!-188;#058&005971)     (GWD-8-Q20)


Not only did the systematic clearing of forests in theUnited States create farmland (especially in the Northeast) and gave consumersrelatively inexpensive houses and furniture, but it also causederosion and very quickly deforested whole regions.
A.Not only did the systematic clearing of forests in the United States
create farmland (especially in the Northeast) and gave consumers relativelyinexpensive houses and furniture, but it alsoB.Not only did the systematic clearing of forests in the United States
create farmland (especially in the Northeast), which gave consumers relativelyinexpensive houses and furniture, but alsoC.The systematic clearing of forests in the United States
, creating farmland(especially in the Northeast) and giving consumers relatively inexpensive housesand furniture, but alsoD.The systematic clearing of forests in the United States
created farmland(especially in the Northeast) and gave consumers relatively inexpensive housesand furniture, but it alsoE.The systematic clearing of forests in the United States
not only createdfarmland (especially in the Northeast), giving consumers relatively inexpensivehouses and furniture, but it



I think but or but also are both Ok in this choice
6#
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-24 11:20:12 | 只看该作者
This one:

Bengal - born writer, philosopher, and educator Rabindranath Tagore had the greatest admiration for Mohandas K. Gandhi the person and also as a politician, but Tagore had been skeptical of Gandhi's form of nationalism and his conservative opinions about India's cultural traditions


A. same
B. for Mohandas K.Gandhi as a person and as a politician, but Tagore was also
C. for Mohandas K.Gandhi not only as a person and as a politician, but Tagore was also
D. of Mohandas K.Gandhi as a person and as also a politician, but Tagore was
E. of Mohandas K.Gandhi not only as a person and as a politician, but Tagore had also been


The answer is B.
7#
发表于 2012-10-24 11:52:16 | 只看该作者
but also here is conveying contrast, there is no doubt

regarding the use of also,  here is my personal opinion:


also is used to convey two actions ( with the one connected by also showing inferior importance)


Ex: I eat an apple and also a pear. ( the meaning here might be construed as a fact that I prefer eating apple or I want to emphasize the main event I do is eating apple, while eating pear seems to be an background or inconsequentially followed one)


It seems to me that but also here is to convey contrast, with the intent of emphasizing the former one


but also seems to introduce another different attitudes  ( also is used to convey that there are two attitudes possessed by the author)




again, here is an extremely subtle point and is only my personal opinion


I can assure you will not encounter any choices that only require you to make the distinction between but also and but
8#
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-24 11:55:05 | 只看该作者
As long as it is that subtle, I am going to let it go....Thanks!

BTW, I think it is wrong to use "with" here: "It seems to me that but also here is to convey contrast, with the intent of emphasizing the former one
"
9#
发表于 2012-10-24 21:07:40 | 只看该作者
个人愚见:

But代表的是纯转折,A, but B 表示本来能推出A 的逻辑同时也能推出NOT B,但是实际情况是B发生了(重点在转折)
But also 表示两种不同逻辑的事情同时并列:A, but also B表示A,B虽然不同逻辑,但是却同时发生了(重点在并列)
10#
 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-24 21:52:01 | 只看该作者
个人愚见:

But代表的是纯转折,A, but B 表示本来能推出A 的逻辑同时也能推出NOT B,但是实际情况是B发生了(重点在转折)
But also 表示两种不同逻辑的事情同时并列:A, but also B表示A,B虽然不同逻辑,但是却同时发生了(重点在并列)
-- by 会员 狮灵鹭智 (2012/10/24 21:07:40)



多谢回复,我感觉也是这样。但是,就像DUKB说的,好像很难用他俩的区别来做题,虽然意思不一样,但是,仿佛可以互相替换。做题的时候,要仔细看看其他的错误啊。
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