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小女公子 · 发表于 2005-4-28 22:54:00

The proposed urban development zones do not represent a new principle; it was employed in “Operation Bootstrap” in Puerto Rico.

(A) do not represent a new principle; it

(B) represent not a new principle, but one that

(C) are not a new principle; the same one

(D) are not a new principle, but one that（B）

(E) are not new in principle; it

这里B如果把that省了是不是更简洁？ OG上有题说过，one足够独立引导定语从句，加that很wordy。如果这里没有that，B因该更好吧？

dashasha · 发表于 2005-4-28 23:35:00

这道题好怪啊。只能选B了。可是我觉得that的确是应该去掉的。这里不是that引导定语从句，不能说principle employed..., 应该是principle was employed. 应该把that去掉，employed...去修饰one.

小女公子 · 发表于 2005-4-29 09:40:00

谢谢楼上……

又读了一下这个句子，是不是加上ｔｈａｔ，表示强调？感觉重心稳一点……

请ｎｎ确认。

zhoushao · 发表于 2005-4-30 12:55:00

我认为这里是平行的用法

represent not a new principle, but one that

名词对名词

730+ · 发表于 2005-5-1 01:42:00

agre e

小女公子 · 发表于 2005-5-1 12:54:00

谢谢楼上两位，那么关于那个that，到底是必须呢，还是不要比较好呢？

brent_zhang · 发表于 2006-2-7 10:40:00

把og上关于one that的题贴一次

9. Astronomers at the Palomar Observatory have discovered a distant supernova explosion, one that they believe is a type previously unknown to science.

(A) that they believe is

(B) that they believe it to be

(C) they believe that it is of

(D) they believe that is

(E) they believe to be of

Choice E is best. The pronoun that in A and B should be deleted, since the pronoun one is sufficient to introduce the modifier and the sentence is more fluid without that. In B and C, it and that it are intrusive and ungrammatical: the idiom is "believe x to be y." In the context of this sentence, the infinitive to be is more appropriate than the limited present-tense is in referring to an event that occurred long ago but has been discovered only recently. Finally, A, B, and D lack of and so illogically equate this particular explosion with the whole class of explosions to which it belongs: it is not a type but possibly one of a type.

和大全809比较，什么原因使得一个要用one that，一个要省掉that呢？

[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-7 10:40:49编辑过]

liweiseed · 发表于 2006-2-7 11:00:00

所做成分不一样

brent_zhang · 发表于 2006-2-7 11:27:00

能不能详细解释一下？

是one在定语从句里的成分吗，og9里面是作从句的宾语，大全这题是作从句的主语。是因为这个差别吗？

wycg · 发表于 2006-2-7 11:44:00

以下是引用brent_zhang在2006-2-7 10:40:00的发言：

把og上关于one that的题贴一次

9. Astronomers at the Palomar Observatory have discovered a distant supernova explosion, one that they believe is a type previously unknown to science.

(A) that they believe is

(B) that they believe it to be

(C) they believe that it is of

(D) they believe that is

(E) they believe to be of

Choice E is best. The pronoun that in A and B should be deleted, since the pronoun one is sufficient to introduce the modifier and the sentence is more fluid without that. In B and C, it and that it are intrusive and ungrammatical: the idiom is "believe x to be y." In the context of this sentence, the infinitive to be is more appropriate than the limited present-tense is in referring to an event that occurred long ago but has been discovered only recently. Finally, A, B, and D lack of and so illogically equate this particular explosion with the whole class of explosions to which it belongs: it is not a type but possibly one of a type.

和大全809比较，什么原因使得一个要用one that，一个要省掉that呢？

大全里的that不能省, one (that) was employed in “Operation , 省拉后就变成句子拉.

OG里的那道题挺特输的, 因为有believe, one that they believe is...可以理解为ne(that they believe) is, 是个句子, one做believe的宾语. 也可理解为one (that they believe (one) is....). one 做believe宾语从句的主语.

而不加that的话,比如说ne they believe is..., 就是一个倒装句, they believe (that) one is..., 不会理解为宾从句. 这就是为什么OG里说A中的that是wordy.

而E中one they believed to be of...也不会理解成其它的意思. 就是: they believe one to be of ...

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