OG13, 同位语的修饰 , 矛盾

csjnju · 发表于 2012-9-9 16:50:15

OG 13
SC-19 的b 选项: the exploits of Nellie Bly ,a pioneer journalist ,included 这里og 上的解释是a pioneer juournalist 修饰NELLIE BLY
SC-47 的b选项 his translation of the LLiad , a work that took , 这里og上的解释是 a work 修饰 translation
这里同位语修饰的指代问题不是矛盾了?/
求nn指导~~xiexie

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-9-9 17:53:08

OG 13
SC-19 的b 选项: the exploits of Nellie Bly ,a pioneer journalist ,included 这里og 上的解释是a pioneer juournalist 修饰NELLIE BLY
SC-47 的b选项 his translation of the LLiad , a work that took , 这里og上的解释是 a work 修饰 translation
这里同位语修饰的指代问题不是矛盾了?/
求nn指导~~xiexie

-- by 会员 csjnju (2012/9/9 16:50:15)

In sample 1， the exploits cannot be a pioneer，so logically，it should refer to NB

In sample2，

"of the Iliad" is an essential prepositional phrase describing the noun "translation". It tells us exactly what translation we are talking about . . . the translation of the Iliad. Because of this, the modifier following is describing the translation, the subject of this noun phrase. A modifier won't refer to something in a prepositional phrase.

also，when u see a split between translation of Iliad and lliad ， the split will remind u the difference

catbdog · 发表于 2012-9-10 09:34:59

totally agree with DUKB24

also, journalist mean humankind in sample 1., there is no ambiguous for someone to mean exploits

sample 2, actually, the sentence uses "a work that", it means to conclude the idea of main sentence.
For instance,
Eating durian in public transportation is not allowed, a rule enacted by Singapore Government.

To sum up, sample 1 & 2 use the same grammar to supply the main idea, but sample 2 uses a more summary way.

abjure · 发表于 2012-9-10 13:47:21

OG 13
SC-19 的b 选项: the exploits of Nellie Bly ,a pioneer journalist ,included 这里og 上的解释是a pioneer juournalist 修饰NELLIE BLY
SC-47 的b选项 his translation of the LLiad , a work that took , 这里og上的解释是 a work 修饰 translation
这里同位语修饰的指代问题不是矛盾了?/
求nn指导~~xiexie

-- by 会员 csjnju (2012/9/9 16:50:15)

In sample 1， the exploits cannot be a pioneer，so logically，it should refer to NB

In sample2，

"of the Iliad" is an essential prepositional phrase describing the noun "translation". It tells us exactly what translation we are talking about . . . the translation of the Iliad. Because of this, the modifier following is describing the translation, the subject of this noun phrase. A modifier won't refer to something in a prepositional phrase.

also，when u see a split between translation of Iliad and lliad ， the split will remind u the difference

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/9 17:53:08)

nice

STshadow · 发表于 2012-9-10 19:57:59

请问是否就是说在 “A of B，modifier”的一个句子中，modifier优先修饰的是A，只有在modifier不能修饰A的时候才会修饰B呢？还有，看见og上说which从句应当修饰最靠近的名词性成分，那么如果修饰成分是一个which从句如何呢？

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-9-10 21:29:54

请问是否就是说在 “A of B，modifier”的一个句子中，modifier优先修饰的是A，只有在modifier不能修饰A的时候才会修饰B呢？还有，看见og上说which从句应当修饰最靠近的名词性成分，那么如果修饰成分是一个which从句如何呢？

-- by 会员 STshadow (2012/9/10 19:57:59)

不太清楚你的问题？能举个例子说明下？

STshadow · 发表于 2012-9-10 23:40:08

就像在 the exploit of N B, a journalist。。。中，是不是 journalist优先修饰exploit，只有在journalist无法修饰exploit的时候才会修饰N B呢？

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-9-10 23:45:58

就像在 the exploit of N B, a journalist。。。中，是不是 journalist优先修饰exploit，只有在journalist无法修饰exploit的时候才会修饰N B呢？

-- by 会员 STshadow (2012/9/10 23:40:08)

umm,反了，应该先修饰NB，此处同位语的修饰原则和which一样，都是挑最近的先修饰

再来，没有所谓的优先的原则，这类题目上了考场你根本记不住规则

use your common sense to determine（到底是modify a of b 整个整体还是单独修饰b）

context is the king

青瓦台BOSS · 发表于 2013-2-11 23:01:47

就像在 the exploit of N B, a journalist。。。中，是不是 journalist优先修饰exploit，只有在journalist无法修饰exploit的时候才会修饰N B呢？

-- by 会员 STshadow (2012/9/10 23:40:08)

umm,反了，应该先修饰NB，此处同位语的修饰原则和which一样，都是挑最近的先修饰

再来，没有所谓的优先的原则，这类题目上了考场你根本记不住规则

use your common sense to determine（到底是modify a of b 整个整体还是单独修饰b）

context is the king

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/10 23:45:58)

如果是按照就近原则来理解，那47题的同位语不就应该直接修饰lliad么？那这句子就是illogical的，所以是错的。

不知道我这样理解哪里错了

DUKB24 · 发表于 2013-2-12 03:17:37

我觉得还是要看每道题考察的侧重点

A of B修饰整体还是部分一定要看题目考察的split，这是非常非常重要的，你看lliad这题明显是做出了区分

而在journalist那题中更大的考点在哪里？我想不是这里关于A of B这个细节吧

我想，对付这些有点自相矛盾的知识点，都用对付pronoun issue的方法就能解决

做出了split，而且非常明显，就去考虑；在考虑完主要的非常显眼的考点之后，这是当然的

没做出split就默认修饰最符合逻辑的修饰对象了

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