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[SC总结] [求助]本月JJ语法点:as with与as when有啥区别啊?

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楼主
发表于 2004-9-20 22:02:00 | 只看该作者

[求助]本月JJ语法点:as with与as when有啥区别啊?

本月语法JJ有一题的语法点:as with与as when区别


我没有语法字典,查不到 555~~~~


我用google搜了一下,这两种用法都有啊!他们有啥区别啊?


本月考,急!!!请大家指点!

沙发
发表于 2004-9-21 04:04:00 | 只看该作者
顶一下,我也发现这个问题了,请NN指点.......
板凳
发表于 2004-9-21 10:11:00 | 只看该作者

如果你指的是这种用法:

Indirect socialization also occurs, as when television shows or films reinforce stereotyped images of women and men.

那么白勇是这么解释的:“as偶尔作指代词,指代简单主句”

具体区别还是要在题目里看的吧。with是介词when是关系副词而且只指时间,很多时候应该很容易区别啊,把题目贴出来看看?

地板
 楼主| 发表于 2004-9-21 16:08:00 | 只看该作者

谢谢MM的解释,我没有题目,只是看到本月刚考完的XDJM说遇到了两道考as when的语法题。看来这是ETS的新考点了!!

携隐MM我看你举的例句,as when 与when好象没啥区别啊?

还有as with 是什么结构,介词前加as,这个 as起什么作用?是不是有跟没有as差不多啊?

我用GOOGL搜到了as with的用法。

5#
发表于 2004-9-21 16:48:00 | 只看该作者

19/DQ83.       Although it claims to delve into political issues, television can be superficial such as when each of the three major networks broadcast exactly the same statement from a political candidate.
(A) superficial such as when each of the three major networks主谓不一致/such as用法错such没有指代(通常是个名词)。such as的用法: such as+noun/ doing/ what从句 /介词短语
such as+when从句:错。主谓一致错:each of sth+单数; 复数名词 each +复数。
(B) superficial, as can sometimes occur if all of the three major networks表达笨拙
(C) superficial if the three major networks all没有如果的意思,而是当。。。时if句意不对。变成了,只有if成立,结论才成立。
(D) superficial whenever each of the three major networks主谓不一致/无论何时,意思表达错(E)
(E) superficial, as when the three major networks each as when as和when分开理解比较好,as 作连词, when引导一个壮语从句,意思可以合起来理解:好像。
Gemj: 首先,有as when的组合,我在逻辑里揪出了两个例子(兴奋不已啊!)。
21. The initial causes of serious accidents at nuclear power plants have not so far been flaws in the advanced-technology portion of the plants. Rather, the initial causes have been attributed to human error, as when a worker at the Browns Mills reactor in the United States dropped a candle and started a fire, or to flaws in the plumbing, exemplified in a recent incident in Japan. Such everyday events cannot be thought unlikely to occur over the long run.
19. The charge made above against alternative medicine is most seriously weakened if it is true that
(A) predictions based on orthodox medicine have sometimes failed, as when a patient has recovered despite the judgment of doctors that an illness is fatal
(B) alternative medicine relies on concepts of the body and of the nature of healing that differ from those on which orthodox medicine is based
(C) alternative medicine provides hope to those for whom orthodox medicine offers no cure
(D) a patient’s belief in the medical treatment the patient is receiving can release the body’s own chemical painkillers, diminish allergic reactions, and promote healing
(E) many treatments used for a time by orthodox medicine have later been found to be totally ineffective
其次,as肯定是连词,意思是“正如”,when作副词。加在一起,结合这三个例子,“as when”的意思可以理解为“正如当…的时候。”

6#
 楼主| 发表于 2004-9-21 22:52:00 | 只看该作者

Thank you very much! leeon

Gemj NN的好贴,多谢告知!

7#
发表于 2004-9-22 21:12:00 | 只看该作者

youpiao MM能不能把as with的用法贴出来让大家看看呢


我也在google上search了,可是没有找到啊,谢谢了

8#
 楼主| 发表于 2004-9-23 15:00:00 | 只看该作者

我在语法大全里找到了一句:

1.        With diamonds, as with all gems, one should ask for a written description of one’s purchase; the description may prove useful later if you have reason to believe the jeweler misled you.

(A) one should ask for a written description of one’s purchase

(B) you should ask for a written description of your purchase

(C) a written discretion of your purchase is what one should ask for

(D) a written description of one’s purchase is what should be asked forB

(E) a written description of your purchase is what should be asked for

我用GOOGLE搜的也几乎是as with + n.(n.词组)的用法。

我想意思为“正如用......”“正如对......”

9#
发表于 2004-9-23 15:05:00 | 只看该作者
我看就从with和when上来区别吧,as好像不是很重要.语法书上说with是表示方式手段的,when应该表示事情发生的时间和场合.
10#
发表于 2004-9-23 16:02:00 | 只看该作者

From Collins Cobuild 4.0


With breast cancer, as with many common diseases, there is no obvious breakthrough on the horizon...


As with any drug taken in excess, your body can build up a tolerance to it.


As with all oily hair treatments, shampoo needs to be applied first.


As with many technological revolutions, you are unlikely to be aware of it.


As with other single parents, economic needs influenced Schramm's decision to live in a New Beginnings community.


As with the other Nutrigroups, as you process, and add salt and fat, the Nutripoints go down.


You can mortgage a condo and borrow on your investment as with a regular house.


Keep in mind, though, as with the movement of the left knee, the raising of the left heel must be in  reaction to the upper body turn.


As with any lost pet, notes Krisch, bird owners should not stop looking after only a week or two.


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