being & having been 版主&NN请帮助

paulpaul82 · 发表于 2009-10-12 00:49:00

版主和其他NN，请帮忙分析一下being & 分词的完成时态（having been）。越详细越好，拜谢了

1. XDF说being全是错的。那是不是说having been也是全错呢？要是可以的话，请举出全部反例。目前为止，我还没发现being是正确答案的

2. 请解释为什么being是错的。也请解释为什么having been（假如having been也全错）是错的

3. OG10-261 的OG解释中有这样一句话 (Being born, having been. Having been born, and being) implies continuous action, 麻烦帮我解释一下。难道说所有分词结构都imply continuous action吗？大家有没有OG里的例子，in which分词不imply continuous action？

4. 接（3），是不是分词做状语的时候imply continuous action？做定语时呢？

5. 还记得某个NN提到分词做状语时需要和主句动词时态一样。。记不清楚了，有这回事么？我觉得不一定，请指教。

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paulpaul82 · 发表于 2009-10-12 08:45:00

aeoluseros · 发表于 2009-10-12 12:13:00

1.新东方说being全都错是让人入门时可以接受的简单说法，事实上没有这么死的原则，being只有累赘的时候才是错的，而being正确的句子例子很多：

OG11-107. In his research paper, Dr. Frosh, medical director of the Payne Whitney Clinic, distinguishes between mood swings, which may be violent without being grounded in mental disease, and genuine manic-depressive psychosis.
OG. Referring to the current hostility toward smoking，smokers frequently express anxiety that their prospects for being hired and promoted are being stunted by their habit．
OG. Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice, which dates from the eighth century, was probably buried to keep it from being stolen by invaders
prep1-103. Simply being genetically engineered does not make a plant any more likely to become an invasive or persistent weed, according to a decade-long study published in the journal Nature.

另外being的问题还可以在置顶帖的语法点汇总里查一下：http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=23&ID=81945&page=1

2.having been done当然也不是错的，可以做名词成分，不过更多时候做状语或非限定性的定语。可以参看下这个帖子里我的观点:

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=410346&replyID=&skin=0

貌似是从第二页才开始讨论having been这个问题的。

3.present participle结构的用法有很多，可以做状语，也可以做定语(在2的那个帖子里面也有讲到)，所以很难讲那个事表示连续动作，那个不是，其实这个问题不需要这么单独考虑，如果看过白勇的话，白勇里面有关于分词用法的总结，再加上你做题后的积累会慢慢有体会，看到being done, being, having been这种都是表示持续状态，而其他具体的present participle还是有具体用法.

4.不一定，做状语可能表示伴随动作，也可能表示伴随结果，前者表示continuous action,后者是consequence.作定语的话直接当成定语从句的缩减来看就行了，不过逻辑意思上跟定语从句有slight difference.

5.分词做状语的话就没有时态了...可能记错了哦

paulpaul82 · 发表于 2009-10-12 12:26:00

版主真是牛人。我看了白勇了，不过没印象了。再看一遍

再次感谢

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