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OG-92只有五天了,请NN们帮个忙

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楼主
发表于 2004-6-12 21:58:00 | 只看该作者

OG-92只有五天了,请NN们帮个忙


92.   Never before had taxpayers confronted so many changes at once as they had in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.


(A) so many changes at once as they had in


(B) at once as many changes as


(C) at once as many changes that there were with


(D) as many changes at once as they confronted inD


(E) so many changes at once that confronted them in


今天从新看这题时突然晕了:这里D选中的confronted属于比较中的(助)动词补出范围吗?换成did可以吗?我一直认为比较中的助动词补出不能补实意动词,这里到底属于那种用法?谢谢NN帮帮忙!

沙发
发表于 2004-6-12 22:42:00 | 只看该作者
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板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2004-6-12 23:07:00 | 只看该作者

谢谢睡熊!

这就是说,除了像have这样的既可被作为实意动词,又可被作完成时之外的其他词都是可以直接在比较结构中出现的咯?

地板
发表于 2004-6-13 00:11:00 | 只看该作者
对,用助动词代替不是必需的。
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发表于 2004-6-13 02:58:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用蓝色泡泡在2004-6-12 21:58:00的发言:


92.   Never before had taxpayers confronted so many changes at once as they had in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.



(A) so many changes at once as they had in



(B) at once as many changes as



(C) at once as many changes that there were with



(D) as many changes at once as they confronted inD



(E) so many changes at once that confronted them in



今天从新看这题时突然晕了:这里D选中的confronted属于比较中的(助)动词补出范围吗?换成did可以吗?我一直认为比较中的助动词补出不能补实意动词,这里到底属于那种用法?谢谢NN帮帮忙!



末名非牛,名牛多退,趁机胡诌...

bunnier doesn't think so. In this comparison, "did" can't replace "had confronted" because they are two different tenses/functions. See OG 187A:

In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many Americans were killed as would later be killed on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day.


There are many examples with different types of comparison in http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=23&ID=36523


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6#
发表于 2004-6-13 10:20:00 | 只看该作者

理解本句的意思就很好做了

从来没有纳税人一次面对像1986那一年的税务改革法案而带来的那么多变化.

D结构平行, 语法正确.

睡熊的解释里面偶对E的解释不同意. E里错误挺多的. SO...that 从句没有从句主语.

7#
发表于 2004-6-13 13:09:00 | 只看该作者

Let's discuss...

with bunnier:

"did" is not a substitute for "had confronted", "did" can be a logical substitute for "confronted". That is if option (D) wording as "as many changes at once as they did in", (D) is still correct. I think this is what the note is asking.

with tulipmontreal:

There is no "so ... that" structure in (E) , actually AS is just misplaced by THAT.

8#
发表于 2004-6-13 14:36:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用睡熊在2004-6-13 13:09:00的发言:

Let's discuss...


with bunnier:


"did" is not a substitute for "had confronted", "did" can be a logical substitute for "confronted". That is if option (D) wording as "as many changes at once as they did in", (D) is still correct. I think this is what the note is asking.


睡熊gg, sorry, bunnier wasn't clear about the answer to 楼主's question! in bunnier's opinion, no, "did" cannot be used in place of the 2nd "confronted". doing so, the sentence gets confusing tenses. the new verb form comes in 92D and 187A for a reason, which is to introduce a different tense (function). "did" can't be subsituted for "had confronted" in the 2nd part of the compaison. ditto for 187A shown in 第5楼.

睡熊gg, could you find an OG example that "did" is used to subsitute for "had confronted" or something similar to this effect? it will be an useful data point to crack ets!

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9#
发表于 2004-6-13 21:38:00 | 只看该作者

这是一段时间的内的状态 跟 某一点的状态的比较。前面用完成时态,后面用一般过去时态, 需要用“did”或“confronted”表示。不存在用“did”来替代“had confronted”的问题,也无法替代,在其他任何场合。


比较从句只是要求比较对象对等,并不要求时态一致。


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10#
发表于 2004-6-13 23:39:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用睡熊在2004-6-13 21:38:00的发言:

这是一段时间的内的状态 跟 某一点的状态的比较。前面用完成时态,后面用一般过去时态, 需要用“did”或“confronted”表示。不存在用“did”来替代“had confronted”的问题,也无法替代,在其他任何场合。


比较从句只是要求比较对象对等,并不要求时态一致。


"后面用一般过去时态, 需要用“did”或“confronted”表示。" No and yes: don't agree on "did" but agree on "confronted". Look forward to gg's OG example for the former.


"比较从句只是要求比较对象对等,并不要求时态一致。" Agreed completely!

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