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OG83,OG35 关于it指代

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发表于 2004-3-23 17:27:00 | 只看该作者

OG83,OG35 关于it指代

35.         In June of 1987, The Bridge of Trinquetaille, Vincent van Gogh’s view of an iron bridge over the Rhone sold for $20.2 million and it was the second highest price ever paid for a painting at auction.


(A) Rhone sold for $20.2 million and it was


(B) Rhone, which sold for $20.2 million, was


(C) Rhone, was sold for $20.2 million,


(D) Rhone was sold for $20.2 million, being


(E) Rhone, sold for $20.2 million, and was


why "it in A has no logical referent", 我觉得很明显it refers to The Bridge of T, 怎样才算指代,是不是要主格的代词指句中的主语,宾格指代宾语成分?


    


83.         Any medical test will sometimes fail to detect a condition when it is present and indicate that there is one when it is not.


(A) a condition when it is present and indicate that there is one


(B) when a condition is present and indicate that there is one


(C) a condition when it is present and indicate that it is present


(D) when a condition is present and indicate its presence


(E) the presence of a condition when it is there and indicate its presence


请说明为什么C对,而其它不对如indicate that there is one/its presence when it is not.


    


    

沙发
发表于 2004-3-23 21:57:00 | 只看该作者
35,it在这里指代的是“价格”而不是“the bridge of t". 因为the highest price 只能是指价格,而不能使“the bridge...", be动词本身表判断,所以是要注意逻辑平行。

板凳
发表于 2005-1-15 18:35:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用zcx在2004-3-23 21:57:00的发言:
35,it在这里指代的是“价格”而不是“the bridge of t". 因为the highest price 只能是指价格,而不能使“the bridge...", be动词本身表判断,所以是要注意逻辑平行。

那不是变成有指代了吗?怎么ETS说无指代呢?

地板
发表于 2005-2-26 21:31:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用ericlai27在2005-1-15 18:35:00的发言:


那不是变成有指代了吗?怎么ETS说无指代呢?



ericlai27,ETS说“it in A has no logical referent”。意思是这个是it不是个合乎逻辑的指代,而没有说这个it没有指代。明白否?
5#
发表于 2005-4-15 21:59:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用juningw在2005-2-26 21:31:00的发言:


ericlai27,ETS说“it in A has no logical referent”。意思是这个是it不是个合乎逻辑的指代,而没有说这个it没有指代。明白否?

我觉得,如果A变成Rhone sold for $20.2 million, and it was
里it可以指向$20.2 million,这里it最多说指代不清,怎么可以说没有指代对象呢??

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发表于 2005-4-16 00:09:00 | 只看该作者
it是代词, 必须指代到具体的名词上面, 如果说存在逻辑指代的话, 那必须指代一个不存在的"painting", 但是原文中没有, 虽然不影响理解, 但是已经不符合代词的规定了.
7#
发表于 2005-5-5 01:15:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用小女公子在2005-4-15 21:59:00的发言:


我觉得,如果A变成Rhone sold for $20.2 million, and it was
里it可以指向$20.2 million,这里it最多说指代不清,怎么可以说没有指代对象呢??

我也觉得应该是有指代对象的, 除非ETS认为代词不能指代做介词宾语的名词, 请nn指教?
8#
发表于 2005-5-5 11:58:00 | 只看该作者

ETS说的是A has no logical referent. 而不是no referent

题目中的vincent.....million是起到同位语作用的成分按A那样说it指代的就是那幅画而不是price所以是no logical referent.

9#
发表于 2005-8-2 05:12:00 | 只看该作者

看了讨论,可是问题并未得到解答。请NN再帮忙看看。


35.   In June of 1987, The Bridge of Trinquetaille, Vincent van Gogh’s view of an iron bridge over the Rhone sold for $20.2 million and it was the second highest price ever paid for a painting at auction.


(A) Rhone sold for $20.2 million and it was


(B) Rhone, which sold for $20.2 million, was


(C) Rhone, was sold for $20.2 million,


(D) Rhone was sold for $20.2 million, beingC


(E) Rhone, sold for $20.2 million, and was


A comma is needed after Rhone in choices A and D to set off the modifying phrase that begins Vincent...; without the comma, the phrase appears to be part of the main clause, and it is thus unclear what noun should govern the verb sold. Furthermore, it in A has no logical referent, and being in D is not idiomatic. Choices B and E produce the illogical statement that the painting was the second highest price. Choice C, the best answer, avoids this problem by using a noun phrase in which price clearly refers to $20.2 million. And by using a comma after Rhone to set off the phrase that modifies The Bridge of Trinquetaille, C makes the painting the subject of was sold.


想问,it 在这种句型里,到底是就近指代$20.2 million (if possible?),还是指代前句话的主语The Bridge of Trinquetaille?


谢谢了。

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发表于 2005-8-20 15:17:00 | 只看该作者
it 指代的是价格吧,后面不是说the second highwst price吗?
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