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[讨论]OG11th讨论,欢迎加入!

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楼主
发表于 2005-12-21 05:49:00 | 只看该作者

[讨论]OG11th讨论,欢迎加入!

1月13日新增:OG11th对比OG10th新增题目讨论汇总。详见6楼。


各位兄弟姐妹,先预祝大家考试顺利!


发这个帖子的初衷是想和大家一起探讨OG10th和OG11th的差别,并且尽快熟悉OG11th的新考点,以便更好的知己知彼,顺利杀G。


最近我总结了少量OG11th的提问,放在这里算是抛砖引玉。希望大家有什么讨论也可以放到这里,或者贴上链接,以便最近考试的各位可以借鉴。我尽量将内容总结到一个word文档,在我考试之前或者之后传上来。谢谢各位!


另外,私自拿了好多大侠的文章内容,但是太多了忘了出处,在这里深表歉意!希望各位包涵,在这里都是为CD的兄弟姐妹服务,各位大人应该不会计较吧


一、相关题目对应信息


SC


OG10th = OG11th + Verbal Review...


OG10th Ed in RED, OG11th Ed in BLUE, Verbal Review (the supplementary) in Orange


3 C's (Correctness, Concision, Clarity): 10, 20, 53, 69, 103, 103, 104, 110, 128, 134, 136, 139, 171, 180, 204, 208, 221, 223, 237, 239, 240, 242, 258, 266


8,12,14,33,36,44,80,101,118,120,124


2,22,26,43,54,69,75,87,105,109


Subject-Verb Agreement: 2,8,14,18,28,28,47,52,77,85,89,140,144,167,174,178,192,198,205,211,213,219,228,238,243,252,255,257


D41,D43,1,3,21,34,41,42,52,61,70,90,116,131,138


8,16,24,34,35,35,44,59,74,77,102,104


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OG 10 CR


Reviwer&OG11th


OG 10 CR


Reviwer&OG11th


OG 10 CR


Reviwer&OG11th


1


R-1


66


OG11-26


136


R-71


2


OG11-102


67


OG11-67


137


R-47


3


OG11-103


68


OG11-27


138


OG11-76


4


OG11-58


69


R-64


139


OG11-77


5


R-29


70


R-11


140



6


R-30


71



141


R-48


7



72


R-12


142


R-20


8


OG11-59


73


OG11-110


143


R-49


9


OG11-17


74


OG11-28


144



10


R-57


75


R-38


145



11


OG11-60


76


R-13


146


OG11-118


12


OG11-61


77


R-39


147


R-50


13



78



148


R-72


14


OG11-18


79


OG11-68


149


R-73


15


OG11-104


80



150


R-74


16



81



151


R-75


17


R-31


82


OG11-69


152



18


R-32


83


OG11-111


153



19


OG11-63


84



154


R-21


20


R-2


85


R-65


155



21



86


R-66


156


OG11-37


22


OG11-19


87


OG11-112


157


OG11-38


23


R-3


88


OG11-29


158


OG11-78


24


R-58


89


OG11-30


159


R-22


25


R-59


90


R-14


160


R-23


26


OG11-105


91


OG11-31


161


OG11-119


27


OG11-64


92



162


R-51


28



93


R-40


163


OG11-79


29


OG11-20


94


OG11-70


164


R-52


30


R-4


95


OG11-71


165


R-76


31



96


OG11-113


166


OG11-39


32



97


R-41


167


OG11-80


33


R-32


98


R-42


168



34



99


R-43


169



35



100


R-67


170


OG11-120


36


R-34


101


OG11-72


171


OG11-81


37


R-35


102



172


R-53


38


R-5


103


OG11-32


173



39


R-60


104



174



40


OG11-22


105


R-15


175


R-77


41


R-6


106



176


OG11-121


42


OG11-106


107



177


OG11-82


43


OG11-23


108



178



44



109



179


R-54


45


R-61


110


OG11-33


180


R-24


46


OG11-107


111


R-68


181


R-78


47



112


R-16


182


OG11-122


48


R-7


113


R-17


183


OG11-83


49


R-62


114



184


OG11-123


50



115



185


R-25


51


OG11-24


116


R-44


186


OG11-40


52


OG11-65


117


OG11-34


187


R-26


53


R-36


118



188


OG11-84


54


R-8


119


OG11-114


189


R-55


55


OG11-25


120


OG11-115


190


OG11-41


56


OG11-108


121


R-69


191


R-79


57


R-9


122


R-70


192


OG11-42


58


OG11-66


123



193


R-27


59


R-37


124


OG11-73


194



60



125


R-18


195



61



126


OG11-36


196


OG11-85


62


R-10


127


OG11-74


197



63


R-63


128


R-19


198



64



129



199


R-80


65


OG11-109


130


R-45


200


OG11-124




131


R-46


201


R-28




132



202


R-56




133



203


OG11-86




134


OG11-117


204


R-81




135


OG11-75


205


R-82


RC


我之前有整理了RC部分,27, 只有11篇新题。其它都与10th重复, 题号对照如下。RC部分解释都是重新编写过的, 可以交错比较10th解释, 题目解释每题都有批注是6~7种题型的哪一种。行数编排上, 改为每行8字左右和机考相同(旧题也是重编), 写起来和GWD感觉还挺像的!


我目前的感觉是OG11th的解释清楚易懂, 版面设计上有利阅读, 题型分类清楚,改善阅读OG10th解释时的问题(选项前后顺序不定, 间隔不清..)


不过由11th看来, 明年度GMAT题型大幅度更改的机率不大, 11th题目考点是延续性的, 10th差异不大, 值得作的部分是部份新题考点可以交叉比对旧题, 可增加对GMAT各式考点的整握。

























































































OG11th


OG10th


1


27


2


37


3


2


4


38


5


16


6


24


7


 


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10


44


11


 


12


10


13


17


14


9


15


 


16


 


17


7


18


4


19


32


20


 


21


12


22


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23


 


24


47


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二、SC题目讨论


OG 11th-SC2


和大家分享一下OG 11TH(SC部分)看后的一些感想,并与10TH 的不同之处


我已在困境区谈了一下,不过我想贴在这里会更合适


先谈OG11THSC部分:


SC部分一共有137(比起10TH来说,题目基本少了一半).而且大部分的题目(大概有80%或者更多)都来自大全和10TH.(反正我做完后,发现基本都是以前有见过的题,除了一小部分之外).


SC部分第一眼给我的感觉是,结构比10TH好多了.每一道题后面的解释都会说明这道题的考点和原题错(或对)在什么地方.然后,再具体分为A,B,C,DE选项去说明每个原项错和对的地方.


举个例子(大全987-2):


2.     A 1972 agreement between Canada and the United States reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump into the Great Lakes.


(A) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities had been allowed to dump


(B) reduced the phosphate amount that municipalities had been dumping


(C) reduces the phosphate amount municipalities have been allowed to dump


(D) reduced the amount of phosphates that municipalities are allowed to dumpA


(E) reduces the amount of phosphates allowed for dumping by municipalities


该题的答案,ETS认为答案不是A,而是D.


ETS是这么解释的(下面原文照抄):


Verb form + Idiom


An agreement that occurred in 1972 is correctly described with the past tens verb reduced.Since the dumping continues into the present, the past perfect verb had been allowed should instead be the present are allowed.


A Had been allowed should be are allowed.


B The phosphbates amount should be the amount of phosphates;the meaning of the sentence is changed by the omission of any form of allow.


C The present tense reduces should be the past tense reduced;the phosphate amount should be the amount of phosphates;have been allowed should be are allowed


D Correct.The past tense reduced is correctly used in this sentence to describe a past action,and the present tense are allowed is used to describle the present situation.


E The present tense reduces should be the past tense redueced;allowed for dumping is an incorrect idiom;allowed for dumping by municipalities is awkward


The correct answer is D.


OG 10th-SC164


虽然11TH的解释在结构上很有条理,但是中规中矩.也改正10TH的一些错误,比如OG164:


164. The commission proposed that funding for the park’s development, which could be open to the public early next year, is obtained through a local bond issue.


(A) that funding for the park’s development, which could be open to the public early next year, is


(B) that funding for development of the park, which could be open to the public early next year, be


(C) funding for the development of the park, perhaps open to the public early next year, to be


(D) funds for the park’s development, perhaps open to the public early next year, beB


(E) development funding for the park, which could be open to the public early next year, is to be


11TH已改正了10TH164Ewhich指代的解释错误.


不过,比起10TH版来说,11TH还是保守了很多.很多题,比不上10TH的解释的详细,而且很多语言现象,都不怎么提,相对来说,11TH的解释更针对于题目的考点,而考点之外的知识,基本不提.可能是ETS怕别人challenge.所以在11TH的解释上变得规矩多了,但对于我们来说,可不是好事呀.


总的来说,我喜欢11TH的解释的结构,同时我更喜欢10TH比较详细的解释,尤其是各个语言现象.


最后说一下,OG 11TH,ETSSC的考点分为以下几类:


1.Agreement


2.Diction


3.Grammatical Construction


4.Idiom


5.Logical Predication


6.Parallelism


7.Rhetorical Construction


8.Verb Form OG11TH


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OG 11th-SC


11th 太好了,解释清晰明了, 选个短点的抄下来


A survey by the national Council of Churches showed that in 1986 there were 20,736 female ministers, almost 9 percent of the nation's clergy, twice as much as 1977.
A twice as much as 1977
B twice as many as 1977
C double what it was in 1977
D double the figure for 1977
E a number double that of 1977's
Diction
some quantities, such as people, can be counted; other quantities, such as respect, cannot. It can be said that a person earned much respect, or that many people attended an event. Here, much is incorrectly applied to ministers. As 1977 in correctly completes the comparison; it would have to be as many as in 1977, which is not one of the possible answers. Another way to make the comparison emphasizes the number, 20,739; a number can be doubled. Double the figure for 1977 places the focus on the number and correctly completes the comparison.
A. Much incorrectly refers to ministers, as should be
as in
B As 1977 does not correctly complete this comparison; it should be as in 1977
C What is was is awkward, wordy, and unclear
D correct. Double the figure places the emphasis of the sentence on the number of ministers; for 1977 correctly completes the comparison..
E Wordy and awkward construction.
The correct answer is D.


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OG 11th-SC9


大全677的答案居然和OG 11th9题不一样


OG 11th SC部分第9题给的答案竟然不是C,大家猜猜答案是哪个?A 看来大全的答案还不是完全正确的.同样在CR大全上面,也发现与OG 11th不一样答案的题.呵呵,ETS...


677.    Sunspots, vortices of gas associated with strong electromagnetic activity, are visible as dark spots on the surface of the Sun but have never been sighted on the Sun’s poles or equator.


(A) are visible as dark spots on the surface of the Sun but have never been sighted on


(B) are visible as dark spots that never have been sighted on the surface of the Sun


(C) appear on the surface of the Sun as dark spots although never sighted at


(D) appear as dark spots on the surface of the Sun, although never having been sighted atC


(E) appear as dark spots on the Sun’s surface, which have never been sighted on


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OG 11th-SC


大全885 Section 14 No.12 OG 11th上的說明!


Nuclear fusion is the force that powers the Sun, the stars, and hydrogen bombs, merging


the nuclei of atoms and not splitting them apart, as in nuclear reactors.


(A) merging the nuclei of atoms and not splitting them apart, as in nuclear reactors


(B) merging the nuclei of atoms instead of splitting them apart, like nuclear reactors


(C) merging the nuclei of atoms rather than splitting them apart, as nuclear reactors do


(D) and merges the nuclei of atoms but does not split them apart, as is done in unclear reactors


(E) and merges the nuclei


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OG 11th-SC


问一个OG11th的语法题


Though the term "graphic design" may suggest laying out corporate brochures and annul reports, they have come to signify widely ranging work, from package designs and company logotypes to signs, book jacketss, computer graphics, and film titles.


B. suggest laying out corporate brochures and annul reports, it has come to signify a wide range of


D.have suggested corporate brochure and annul report layout, it has signified a wide range of


大家选哪个呢? 答案是B


看看OG1088题,你就明白了.


it has come to do 有渐渐开始.....的意思,这应该是本题的主要考点。


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OG 11th-SC18


18.Computers are becoming faster, more powerful, and more reliable, and so too are modems, they are the devices to allow two or more computers to share information over regular telephone lines.


A.so too are modems, they are the devices to allow


B.so too are modems, the devices that allow  


C.so too modems, the devices allowing


D.also modems, they are the devices that allow


E.also modems, which are the devices to allow


b


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OG 11th-SC46


To Josephine Baker, Paris was her home long before it was fashionable to be an expartiate, and she remained in France during the Second World War as a performer and an interlligence agent for the Resistance.


D)Long Before it was fashionable to be an expatriate, Josephine Baker made Paris her home


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OG 11th-SC3


Diabetes, together with its serious complications, ranks as the nation's third leading cause of death, surpassed only by heart disease and cancer.


(a) ranks as the nation's third leading cause of death, surpassed only


(b) rank as the nation's third leading cause of death, only surpassed


(c) has the rank of the nation's third leading cause of death, only surpassed


(d) are the nation's third leading causes of death, surpassed only


(e) have been ranked as the nation's third leading causes of death, only surpassed


ans: A


對於這題我有個修飾位置差異(surpassed only/ only surpassed)的問題想請教一下


OG解釋:


"only" is placed with precision next to the group of words it actually limits, by "heart disease and cancer". Placed before "surpassed", "only" would more ambiguously limit "surpassed".


簡單的說就是ETS認為兩者在語意上有不同


surpassed only by heart disease and cancer


only surpassed by hear disease and cancer


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沙发
发表于 2005-12-21 10:39:00 | 只看该作者

顶!

板凳
发表于 2005-12-21 12:02:00 | 只看该作者
先想请问北京,西安,上海三地哪里有买影印版了,多谢各位
地板
发表于 2005-12-22 02:07:00 | 只看该作者
很好地总结,谢谢jj。希望明年考试的xdjm一起参加,我还在初级阶段,只好顶顶了
5#
发表于 2005-12-22 13:10:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用redhot99在2005-12-21 12:02:00的发言:
先想请问北京,西安,上海三地哪里有买影印版了,多谢各位

在网上搜索一下,有很多。


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6#
 楼主| 发表于 2005-12-24 16:19:00 | 只看该作者

[分享]OG11th讨论汇总

从今天开始我会把SC中OG11th对比OG10th新增题目每天贴出几道题大家讨论(非常感谢running提供的资料!),然后把链接贴在这里,希望大家能共同讨论,共同进步!我这里只有题目,没有答案,所以如果方便的话,也请热心人把答案补上,在这里先谢过!按照carolhide总结出来的题目对照(非常感谢!),主要新增的题目有OG11th黄色封面的书里面的1-18,44-64和97-106题,如有遗漏,请大家补充,谢谢!为了方便后人查阅,也请大家响应版主的号召,有什么问题都在以后的帖子后面跟贴讨论:)


1-18


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7#
发表于 2005-12-24 19:56:00 | 只看该作者

LZ辛苦了!


现在只有本10th,不过还没开始看,打算先看10th再看11th

8#
发表于 2005-12-25 00:40:00 | 只看该作者

那里有卖11版的OG?谁有电子版吗?急求……

9#
发表于 2005-12-25 01:35:00 | 只看该作者

好认真的mm啊,佩服


11版解释的确比较清楚。我比较心浮气躁的,10版看的云里雾里,相关认知大多在讨论里获得。看11版明显有清晰感。语法中,印象最深刻的还是其时态用法提及的频率,非常高。待总结完,供讨论。



其中有一不解:


OG-11-102-E 选项


Beatrix Pottery, in her book illustrations, carefully coordinated them with her narratives and ( capitalized on her keen observation and love of the natural world).



OG explanation: them can not  refer to book illustrations because the plural noun is the object of the preposition in;


难道一个名词做介词的宾语就不能被指代?我不大明白,因为这样情况其他地方比较多。我曾经用这样的规定去解题而错选。因为现急着出去,回来再找例子出来。


请指点


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 楼主| 发表于 2005-12-25 04:32:00 | 只看该作者

姐姐过奖了!


这句话我读起来也觉得them有些别扭,至于具体的依据我不敢确定,但是提出两点可能的原因供大家讨论:


(参考携隐姐姐SC总结中关于指代问题的说法)


1.其中有一种思想应该是主句代词一般不指代从句成分(不知道我有没有理解错,这句话是我总结的),那么以此类推,介词结构在这里作状语,应该也是和从句类似的成分,所以不可以指代。


2.代词的指代顺序一般是主语核心词、宾语、表语、修饰语中的名词,这里应该勉强属于最后一种吧。不过前面几种通过单复数判断也行不通啊,所以我也不太明白。


大家继续讨论,欢迎拍砖。


by the way,姐姐能不能把正确的选项贴出来看看,谢谢!


如果讨论没有结果,建议不要把这个作为排除选项的首要依据,一般来说每道题都考好几个知识点,通常可以根据其他原因排除选项的。



贴个该题目的新帖子讨论:http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardID=23&ID=149312&page=1


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