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求教——OG12 25题——关于传说中的basing on

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楼主
发表于 2012-1-23 23:35:19 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
看了论坛里的帖子,目前based on完全理解,但没弄清楚basing的用法
oxford advanced learner's dictionary 里base on用法是base sth on/upon sth以……为基础(或根据)
eg. What are you basing this theory on?你这种理论的根据是什么?

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Based on accounts of various ancient writers, scholars have painted a sketchy picture of the activitiesof an all-female cult that, perhaps as early as the sixth century B.C., worshipped a goddess known in Latin as Bona Dea, “the good goddess.”
(A) Based on accounts of various ancient writers,
(B) Basing it on various ancient writers’ accounts,
(C) With accounts of various ancient writers used
for a basis,
(D) By the accounts of various ancient writers
they used,
(E)Using accounts of various ancientwriters
正确答案是是E,但我想知道B的错误除了it指代不明以外,有没有别的缺陷?如果没有的话,就证明根本没有basing on sth的说法咯~只有basing sth on sth了~是么?
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沙发
发表于 2012-1-24 10:22:18 | 只看该作者
我认为Basing on various ancient writers’ accounts, scholars .....
就说B选项去掉it,这个是可以的。这里相当于v-ing做verb modifier。

如果Based on..., scholars ....
这是不对的。 Past participle ("based on ...") 是作为noun modifier,而不是作为verb modifier。

以下把我摘抄的Manhattan SC以及Manhattan论坛上的东东贴过来吧,hope it helps

In your OG example, the word (based) now has an -ed ending, not an -ing ending. This is now a noun modifier, and the first noun after the comma is scholars. So it basically says the scholars themselves are "based on accounts of various ancient writers." That's not what we want to say; we want to say the scholars used the accounts of various ancient writers to do something else. So we change to an -ing form (using) so that we can correctly modify the clause: scholars have painted X using accounts of Y.

11. Based on the recent decline in enrollment, theadmissions office decided to reevaluate its recruitment strategies.
Based on ... enrollment: INCORRECT. As a nounmodifier, the past participle based modifies admissions office. However,the intention of the sentence is not that the admissions office itselfis based on the recent decline in enrollment. The phrase based on X is often incorrectly used inplace of the prepositional phrase because of, which cancorrectly modify the verb phrase decided to reevaluate.
Correction: Because of the recent decline in enrollment, theadmissions office decided to reevaluate its recruitment strategies.

RIGHT:           Theverdict was BASED ON the evidence.
The jury reached averdict BASED ON the evidence.
WRONG:
BASED ON theevidence, the jury reached a verdict.
(The jury was notitself BASED ON the evidence.)


看了论坛里的帖子,目前based on完全理解,但没弄清楚basing的用法
oxford advanced learner's dictionary 里base on用法是base sth on/upon sth以……为基础(或根据)
eg. What are you basing this theory on?你这种理论的根据是什么?

回到OG12 25题
Based on accounts of various ancient writers, scholars have painted a sketchy picture of the activitiesof an all-female cult that, perhaps as early as the sixth century B.C., worshipped a goddess known in Latin as Bona Dea, “the good goddess.”
(A) Based on accounts of various ancient writers,
(B) Basing it on various ancient writers’ accounts,
(C) With accounts of various ancient writers used
for a basis,
(D) By the accounts of various ancient writers
they used,
(E)Using accounts of various ancientwriters
正确答案是是E,但我想知道B的错误除了it指代不明以外,有没有别的缺陷?如果没有的话,就证明根本没有basing on sth的说法咯~只有basing sth on sth了~是么?
-- by 会员 shangchangle (2012/1/23 23:35:19)

板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-24 21:48:42 | 只看该作者
Make sense! "basing on" should be properer~Thanks a lot
地板
发表于 2012-1-25 03:29:06 | 只看该作者
不好意思啊,我发现我说错了....
现在觉得,"Basing sth. on various ancient writers' accounts, scholars ...."   这样才对, base on作为transitive verb后面要接宾语。巴"basing on"换成“using”就perfect。

Passive voice:  A is based on B.
Active voice:   People base A on B.
Based on B, A blablabla.
Basing A on B, people blablabla.

http://www.beatthegmat.com/based-on-basing-on-please-explain-t54643.html

欢迎讨论

我认为Basing on various ancient writers’ accounts, scholars .....
就说B选项去掉it,这个是可以的。这里相当于v-ing做verb modifier。-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/24 10:22:18)
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-1-25 15:26:46 | 只看该作者
不好意思啊,我发现我说错了....
现在觉得,"Basing sth. on various ancient writers' accounts, scholars ...."   这样才对, base on作为transitive verb后面要接宾语。巴"basing on"换成“using”就perfect。

Passive voice:  A is based on B.
Active voice:   People base A on B.
Based on B, A blablabla.
Basing A on B, people blablabla.

http://www.beatthegmat.com/based-on-basing-on-please-explain-t54643.html

欢迎讨论

我认为Basing on various ancient writers’ accounts, scholars .....
就说B选项去掉it,这个是可以的。这里相当于v-ing做verb modifier。-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/24 10:22:18)
-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/25 3:29:06)


哈哈~看样子我直觉还没错。。。anyway thanks!!!
6#
发表于 2012-1-28 18:33:10 | 只看该作者
求救啊!!!!!!!我也想问一下,it为什么指代不明了呢,不是说代词指代优先指代主语,由于主语是复数则指代宾语即a skethy picture,怎么就指代不明了呢?
7#
发表于 2012-1-28 18:51:13 | 只看该作者
一般说来,指代遵从touch rule,都是往前面找,而不是往后面找

什么时候可以往后面找呢?

(  ), S V O
( )里面的代词指代主语是可以的,指代别的成分(例如宾语)是不可以的
CORRECT: Tired on her knees, Mary stopped running.    
道理其实说白了,这个结构"Tired on her knees,"  就是作为典型的noun modifier,修饰后面的临近的noun,也就是subject (Mary)
所以这里面的her自然指的是Mary's,这和touch rule不冲突

求救啊!!!!!!!我也想问一下,it为什么指代不明了呢,不是说代词指代优先指代主语,由于主语是复数则指代宾语即a skethy picture,怎么就指代不明了呢?
-- by 会员 忘忧蛊 (2012/1/28 18:33:10)

8#
发表于 2012-1-29 19:44:03 | 只看该作者
谢谢楼上啦,茅塞顿开啦
9#
发表于 2012-2-8 15:56:36 | 只看该作者
一般说来,指代遵从touch rule,都是往前面找,而不是往后面找

什么时候可以往后面找呢?

(  ), S V O
( )里面的代词指代主语是可以的,指代别的成分(例如宾语)是不可以的
CORRECT: Tired on her knees, Mary stopped running.    
道理其实说白了,这个结构"Tired on her knees,"  就是作为典型的noun modifier,修饰后面的临近的noun,也就是subject (Mary)
所以这里面的her自然指的是Mary's,这和touch rule不冲突

求救啊!!!!!!!我也想问一下,it为什么指代不明了呢,不是说代词指代优先指代主语,由于主语是复数则指代宾语即a skethy picture,怎么就指代不明了呢?
-- by 会员 忘忧蛊 (2012/1/28 18:33:10)


-- by 会员 babybearmm (2012/1/28 18:51:13)





每次看姐姐的解释都特别明白!!
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发表于 2012-2-12 10:22:37 | 只看该作者

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