求教OG13的58,61,65

mwh9511 · 发表于 2013-12-7 17:15:36

58. That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault : Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970.
(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault
(B) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
(C) It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
(D) It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology
(E) The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said

整个题目都有所不解，为什么开始不能使用THAT，还有答案C的结构以及其构成难以理解

65. Digging in sediments in northern China, evidence has been gathered by scientists suggesting that complex life-forms emerged much earlier than they had previously thought.

(A) evidence has been gathered by scientists suggesting that complex life-forms emerged much earlier than they had

(B) evidence gathered by scientists suggests a much earlier emergence of complex life-forms than had been

(C) scientists have gathered evidence suggesting that complex life-forms emerged much earlier than

(D) scientists have gathered evidence that suggests a much earlier emergence of complex life-forms than that which was

(E) scientists have gathered evidence which suggests a much earlier emergence of complex life-forms than that
求教其中的DE选项，THAT WHICH为什么不可取，以及D选项THAT之后为什么说用词多余

liugang456654 · 发表于 2013-12-8 23:41:45

我是学渣,楼主选择性吸收.

58题, B : "That hat educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology " 整体是主语.谓语是"can hardly be said to be at fault" 变成了that引导的整句话at fault.回头看正确选项D, 就很清楚了,是educators are at fault. 像曼哈顿里说的主谓要make sense together. A 的错误一样,又加上了that it is their fault 不简洁的错误.

至于C,也是语意问题.It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators,句子的主干就结束了.后面的Who-----是用来修饰educators 的.而已经不是the fault的具体内容了.
举个例子, 带绿色帽子的小明没有错, 和带绿色帽子不是小明的错是不一样的.
第一句里只是说小明没有错,具体什么事没说. 修饰语带绿色帽子只是为了把小明和带红色帽子的小朋友区分开.
第二句里就明确了, 带绿色帽子这件事,不是小明的错.
这也就是曼哈顿里说得,modifier 改变位置会改变句子意思.

liugang456654 · 发表于 2013-12-9 00:13:35

65题,dangling问题可以排除A和B.因为 GMAT prefers direct English, 所以有了曼哈顿里说得 VAN原则.就是 Verb >Adjective/ Adverb >Noun.具体到这个题就是 emergence (n.)不如emerged(v.) 直接和简洁.

至于that which, 既然OG已经都说了是 incorrect English, 我只能模仿Ron 大神的口吻, GMAT说不对,那就是不对.你要把自己的思维和GMAT 调整一致.很多口语种常见的错误,在 GMAT都是考点.

mwh9511 · 发表于 2013-12-12 14:39:18

谢谢解答

mogu724 · 发表于 2014-2-5 09:48:30

liugang456654 发表于 2013-12-8 23:41
我是学渣,楼主选择性吸收.

58题, B : "That hat educators have not anticipated the impact of microcom ...

请问d选项还原出来是怎样的句子呢，that指代e are at fault？翻译过来也不通啊。。

AUVY · 发表于 2014-2-7 14:45:03

请问65中 Something is much earlier/ easier than sb. previously believed/ thought. 中的sb是可以省略的么？要是省略了为什么不能理解是Something is much earlier/ easier than (sth.) be previously believed/ thought. C选项中没有sb 但是又没有be 怎么理解呢？

messi-hzj · 发表于 2014-2-7 17:42:50

如果用that+。。。。整个句子会头重脚轻，所以用it做形式主语。自己的理解啊~

darkritual · 发表于 2014-2-8 17:05:46

首先第一个题目

http://forum.chasedream.com/thread-466014-1-1.html 有解释

但是这里按照我的理解给你梳理一下，反正先大概理解一下句子的意思。就是说没有预料到微机的影响这个事情不能说是学者们的错。大概这么个意思，看表达。
A和B都用That引导主语从句，但是由于整个句子太长，这样表达很啰嗦，反正读起来就很不爽（注意Gmat的解释里没说这是绝对错误，顶多算awkward）。而且A后面it 没有指代。
应该用can hardly be said to be one‘s fault 这个idiom（from MM）
同理B的 at fault 按照上面的 idiom也应该变成 their

再来看C，一般来说你越看不懂的句子越不对。这题的OA是D，不是C
本来it这个指代就不太能随便用，仅在强调句和一些特定短语中可以作为形式主语存在，比如make it possible
C中的第二个it 就没有指代了，而且整个句子还比较啰嗦。如果硬要纠缠硬性错误，那么这个句子扭曲了原意。原意是“我们很难说学者们对没有预料到微机影响有责任” 而 C 变成了“我们很难说是那些没有预料到微机影响的学者的责任” 虽然第二句在极端情况下有对的可能，但是一般来说，前一句比较正常，复合原意。

D里面就比较清楚了，强调句， It can hardly be said that，是固定句式，sb are at fault for doing sth. 也是固定用法.套上而已.

当读完D基本上就结束了,看到E的The fact 秒杀之,既然D已经讲清楚了,就没必要用The fact句式.

darkritual · 发表于 2014-2-8 18:05:38

再来说第二题:
首先AB不选不用我说了吧

这题我自己做的话看到C就选下去过了,不会往下看.原因是C选项已经清晰,准确,无误的表达出这句话的内容了.而这正是SC的核心---清晰,准确,无误
来看看D,前一个that引导限制性定语从句，和suggesting 的区别不大，前者表示事情的一次性，后者表示延续性和一种状态，GMAC不会单独考这个的区别。
后面一个than that which 中，that 是代词，在本句中无指代，而且than的前后也不平行。而且emergence of complex life-forms 和 emerg 相比，根据VAN--RULE，动词优于名词，有了动词形式和名词形式，一般就是考这个规则。要格外注意。

E选择里，我觉得这里不能用非限制定语从句，也就是不能用which，因为后面并不是补充解释而。后面的emergence of complex life-forms 错误同前，than前后对比不平行。

小白菜ka · 发表于 2014-3-8 10:10:47

我说一下第58题吧，在manhattan的习语部分中，it is fault of sb who 本身就被认定为一个错误搭配，所以c本身就是错的，at fault 的主语也只能是人，b也是错的，E是因为the fact 是多余的，你可以这么想一下，即使缺少了the fact句子意思也不会有任何变化，不过最重要的还是，主语从句和不定式作主语在Gmat中好像都是被认为错的，要用形式主语it 来代替的

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