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木寻云 · 发表于 2012-9-9 01:56:17

比较一直搞不太清楚，这里是OG12-41

搞不清楚以下比较的对象到底是什么，究竟是怎么比的………………

D。demographers would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

E。demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

就只是more than后面一点点的区别。
我还是不太清楚到底什么和什么在比较……为什么不能直接“状语比较”就像：
the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought这样，后面不用补出主谓呀……

感激不尽啊！！！！

stlibai · 发表于 2012-9-9 01:58:55

我也有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

stlibai · 发表于 2012-9-9 02:17:44

比较一直搞不太清楚，这里是OG12-41

搞不清楚以下比较的对象到底是什么，究竟是怎么比的………………

D。demographers would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

E。demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

就只是more than后面一点点的区别。
我还是不太清楚到底什么和什么在比较……为什么不能直接“状语比较”就像：
the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought这样，后面不用补出主谓呀……

感激不尽啊！！！！

-- by 会员木寻云 (2012/9/9 1:56:17)

你这个问题我好像能回答。。。
这种情况大多数是因为模糊不清ambiguous.
E选项虽然意思没有歧意，但是more than 比较结构需要左右平行。要么有副词在more than前面和now平行，要么有词在后面与a great deal平行。
或者让这个句子结构平行，就是补出谓语。我记得这道题prep2008好像有的，你可以去找找。
不过这种题我都是觉得结构完整会比较好，因为我觉得redundent要好过ambiguous，不知道这么想对不对。。。

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-9-9 08:24:57

比较一直搞不太清楚，这里是OG12-41

搞不清楚以下比较的对象到底是什么，究竟是怎么比的………………

D。demographers would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

E。demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

就只是more than后面一点点的区别。
我还是不太清楚到底什么和什么在比较……为什么不能直接“状语比较”就像：
the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought这样，后面不用补出主谓呀……

感激不尽啊！！！！

-- by 会员木寻云 (2012/9/9 1:56:17)

首先LZ给出的例子不是状语比较
the economy might not be as weak as （the economy ）some analysts previously thought

2.
关于上面的题目
没有补出，就成了主语和状语的比较 illogical（比较要求的是logical and grammatical parallel）

下面这个例子你可以不补出：

I grow faster today than yesterday

上面的题目，前面并没有时间状语，你不能随便省略（是将来的知识存量和现在的知识存量对比，不是知识存量和现在这个时间对比）

abjure · 发表于 2012-9-9 10:48:26

比较一直搞不太清楚，这里是OG12-41

搞不清楚以下比较的对象到底是什么，究竟是怎么比的………………

D。demographers would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

E。demographers would have to know a great deal more than now about the social and economic determinants of fertility.

就只是more than后面一点点的区别。
我还是不太清楚到底什么和什么在比较……为什么不能直接“状语比较”就像：
the economy might not be as weak as some analysts previously thought这样，后面不用补出主谓呀……

感激不尽啊！！！！

-- by 会员木寻云 (2012/9/9 1:56:17)

首先LZ给出的例子不是状语比较
the economy might not be as weak as （the economy ）some analysts previously thought

2.
关于上面的题目
没有补出，就成了主语和状语的比较 illogical（比较要求的是logical and grammatical parallel）

下面这个例子你可以不补出：

I grow faster today than yesterday

上面的题目，前面并没有时间状语，你不能随便省略（是将来的知识存量和现在的知识存量对比，不是知识存量和现在这个时间对比）

-- by 会员 DUKB24 (2012/9/9 8:24:57)

只有时态相同，且than 右边省略部分，并且在than的左边有出现才可以算是省略。

估计LZ以为这题E选项省略了“they do”，但两者时态不同

abjure · 发表于 2012-9-9 10:58:10

我也有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 1:58:55)

是的

stlibai · 发表于 2012-9-9 11:06:37

我也有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 1:58:55)

是的

-- by 会员 abjure (2012/9/9 10:58:10)

thx~
再问一下,我问的都好基础啊掩面,,,
再问你一个~
Right:They are AS hungry AS you are.
Right:They are AS hungry AS you.
有什么区别么?

yakev6 · 发表于 2012-9-9 11:13:03

我也有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 1:58:55)

是的

-- by 会员 abjure (2012/9/9 10:58:10)

thx~
再问一下,我问的都好基础啊掩面,,,
再问你一个~
Right:They are AS hungry AS you are.
Right:They are AS hungry AS you.
有什么区别么?

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 11:06:37)

无

DUKB24 · 发表于 2012-9-9 11:16:23

我也有一个问题...大半夜的大家都不容易。。。
Right: The man is FIVE TIMES AS OLD AS his grandson.
Wrong: The man is FIVE TIMES OLDER THAN his grandson.

这个 five times older thanmanhattan里面给出的解释是6倍，是这个意思么？？？

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 1:58:55)

是的

-- by 会员 abjure (2012/9/9 10:58:10)

thx~
再问一下,我问的都好基础啊掩面,,,
再问你一个~
Right:They are AS hungry AS you are.
Right:They are AS hungry AS you.
有什么区别么?

-- by 会员 stlibai (2012/9/9 11:06:37)

无

-- by 会员 yakev6 (2012/9/9 11:13:03)

史前巨牛出现了！！

yakev6 · 发表于 2012-9-9 11:18:34

动词比较就这三种模式。多看点句子就好了。关键还是知道谁和谁比。
模式一：A do + prep x + more adj than + A do + prep y 两个时间点的同一动作比较
To develop more accurate population forecasts, demographers would have to know a great deal more than they do now about the social and economic determinants of fertility. OG12-41
Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples as it did in 1910. OG12-125
Between 1990&2000 the global economy grew more than it did during the 10000 year from the beginning of the agriculture to 1950.
Since 1990 the global economy has grown more than it did during the 10,000 years from the beginning of agriculture to 1950.
Having finally reached a tentative labor agreement with its company's pilots, the airline's board of directors must now determine how the airline can both increase profits and compete more effectively for customers than it did in the past. PREP071-14
Employment costs rose 2.8 percent in the 12 months that ended in September, slightly less than they did in the year that ended in the previous quarter. PREP071-24
Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were last year. OG12-93
The economy of Britain grew more slowly in the mid-1970's and declined much more rapidly in the subsequent recession than did the economy of the United States. P72-53
During the last interglacial period, the climate on the Earth was warmer than it is today, and the consequent melting of the polar ice caps caused the sea level to rise about 60 feet above its present height. P72-96
模式二：(SVO) +more +(adj) +advX+ than+ advY 同一动作在不同条件下的比较（介宾/状语比较）
Less successful after she emigrated to New York than she had been in her native Germany, photographer Lotte Jacobi nevertheless earned a small group of discerning admires, and her photographs were eventually exhibited in prestigious galleries across the United States. OG12-123
Heating-oil prices are expected to be higher this year than last because refiners are paying about $5 a barrel more for crude oil than they were last year. OG12-93
In no other historical sighting did Halley's Comet cause such a worldwide sensation as in its return of 1910-1911. OG12-138
One of the primary distinctions between our intelligence and that of other primates may lie not so much in any specific skill as in our ability to extend knowledge gained in one context to new and different ones. OG12-96.
Shipwrecks are more likely to be found undisturbed at great depths than in shallow coastal waters, where archaeological remains are exposed to turbulence and are accessible to anyone in scuba gear, whether archaeologist, treasure hunter, or sport diver. PREP071-55
Though certain breeds of dog are renowned for their sense of smell, there is often a greater difference in scenting ability between two members of a single breed than between members of different breeds. PREP071-112
Retailers reported moderate gains in their November sales, as much because their sales a year earlier had been so bad as because shoppers were getting a head start on buying their holiday gifts. OG12-76
Two new studies indicate that many people become obese more because their bodies burn calories too slowly than because they eat too much. V2-93
30.Thomas Eakins’ powerful style and his choices of subject – the advances in modern surgery, the discipline of sport, the strains of individuals in tension with society or even with themselves – were as disturbing to his own time as they are compelling for ours.
The company announced that its profits declined much less in the second quarter than analysts had expected and that its business would improve in the second half of the year. OG12-139
59.Certain pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place; one reason is suggested by the finding that there are much larger populations of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in soils that are free of such chemical.
The Kwakiutl recognized one social unit larger than the tribe--the confederacy, which was a cluster of loosely knit, informally related neighboring tribes who interacted with one another more often than with other tribes.

atience Lovell Wright, whose traveling waxworks exhibit preceded Madame Tussaud's work by 30 years, became as well known for her eccentric personality as for her skillful wax renderings of popular public figures.
112.Though certain breeds of dog are renowned for their sense of smell, there is often a greater difference in scenting ability between two members of a single breed than between members of different breeds.
模式三：SVO+ more adj than + SVO
153.A recent United States Census Bureau report shows that there are more than three times as many households where the children and grandchildren are living in their grandparents' home as there are households where the grandparents are living in their children's or grandchildren's home. P7-153
There is a widespread belief in the United States and Western Europe that young people have less of a commitment to work and a career than their parents and grandparents had and that the source of the change lies in the collapse of the "work ethic." P72-25
1. To meet the rapidly rising market demand for fish and seafood, suppliers are growing fish twice as fast as they grow naturally, cutting their feed allotment by nearly half and raising them on special diets.
The economy of Britain grew more slowly in the mid-1970's and declined much more rapidly in the subsequent recession than did the economy of the United States.

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