求助verbal分册SC 18中besides 和except for 区别

落薇裳 · 发表于 2013-5-5 15:57:19

Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged in 1911，Scott Joplin's ragtime opera＂Treemonisha＂was not produced　until 1972，sixty-one years after its completion．
(A) Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged
(B) Except for a concert performance with the composer himself staging it
(C) Besides a concert performance being staged by the composer himself
(D) Excepting a concert performance that the composer himself staged
(E) With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself.
答案：A

这道题中其他语法点都弄懂了，就是疑惑A、C中except for 和besides 的用法。我记得之前看过一个总结说besides表示除去的部分也包含在总体之内，而except for除去的部分不包含在总体之内，可是这道题中a concert performance应该是被包含在整体之内的呀，为什么用except for呢。
第一次发帖，不太会组织语言，大家凑合看，求NN指教~

落薇裳 · 发表于 2013-5-8 19:32:11

自己顶一下~

abc791201064 · 发表于 2013-6-13 16:44:18

我也不懂beisdes 求顶啊

hemodata · 发表于 2013-7-5 11:33:59

落薇裳发表于 2013-5-8 19:32
自己顶一下~

刚才那个帖子你太客气啦。我觉得你说的对，理解的差不多，不影响做题就好。
我还是用在线的collinsdictionary查了一下单词的区别
lz感受下呢

except for (ɪkˈsɛpt fə )
other than; apart from; with the exception of = except
⇒ His legal battles have cost an estimated $2-million, mostly paid by supporters, except for $300,000 he covered himself.

besides
apart from; even considering
⇒ besides costing too much, the scheme is impractical

其实可以发现说，besides会有“在...之外，还有...”的感觉
而except for则表明其后的那个例子是一个孤立现象

本题是说，在前六年里面，就只演奏了那么一场，没别的了。所以应该是except for更合适。

落薇裳 · 发表于 2013-7-5 13:04:39

hemodata 发表于 2013-7-5 11:33
刚才那个帖子你太客气啦。我觉得你说的对，理解的差不多，不影响做题就好。
我还是用在线的collinsdiction ...

老帖子了，感谢回复~
被你一说是觉得你的理解比较准确
except for和besides的逻辑好像完全不是一个感觉的
句意的东西好复杂
谢谢~

abc791201064 · 发表于 2013-8-3 12:39:34

besides啥的有逻辑主语啥的要求的吗

flhuihui1001 · 发表于 2013-11-22 17:27:06

粘贴RON对此题短语的解释

“besides X” is used somewhat like “in addition to X”, but specifically with the meaning that X is not very important in the context of the current sentence.
are there any other benefits of weightlifting, besides the obvious effects on strength and muscle mass? --> note that this question would also work with “in addition to”, but the emphasis is a little bit different: the phrasing of this particular question implies that the asker is (at least at the current moment) not terribly concerned with the effects on strength and muscle mass. by contrast, the use of “in addition to” would imply that these effects are also important in the context at hand.

"with the exception of" is a lot like “except for”.
with the exception of smith, all of the first-year students passed the exams.

"excepting" is like “with the exception of” or “except for”, but it has very restricted usage conventions: it is generally only used in introducing an exception to a negative statement, i.e., a statement originally phrased with not, don't, nobody, etc.
this strikes me as one of those things that will not be tested again -- it's rather obscure to start with, and, moreover, there has recently been an observable progression of official problems away from such random idioms and toward more systematic issues of grammar and meeting -- so i wouldn't worry about it too much if i were you.

我要喝可乐 · 发表于 2015-12-5 11:56:15

flhuihui1001 发表于 2013-11-22 17:27
粘贴RON对此题短语的解释

“besides X” is used somewhat like “in addition to X”, but specifically ...

Mark一下！

mfyddmm · 发表于 2018-8-15 15:24:46

感谢！错了这个正不懂呢嘿嘿嘿

cathyhu1995 · 发表于 2019-4-6 14:32:16

谢谢po主，我也是不懂这个呢。突然想到 besides可以用中文解释，比方易烊千玺除了帅之外，还很有才华。
except感觉就像是两个割裂的部分，except 有些小瑕疵，这个工艺品很精美

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