请教OG 100的解释

sx_bj188 · 发表于 2003-11-29 01:19:00

OG 100
Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida, and Minnesota have
begun to enforce statewide bans prohibiting landfills to accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings.
(A)    prohibiting landfills to accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings
(B)    prohibiting that landfills accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings
(C)    prohibiting landfills from accepting leaves, brush, and grass clippings
(D)    that leaves, brush, and grass clippings cannot be accepted in landfills
(E)    that landfills cannot accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings
Choice C is the best answer. Either of the following constructions would be idiomatic here: x forbids y to do z or x prohibits y from doing z. Choices A and B violate idiom;
\ D and E introduce constructions that, in context, are faulty. First of all, both bans that x cannot be done and bans that y cannot do x are unidiomatic formulations. Secondly, the negative cannot after bans is illogical.

答案我知道是C,但是看到OG对答案的解释时说：
“ D and E introduce constructions that, in context, are faulty. First of all, 'both bans that x cannot be done' and 'bans that y cannot do x' are unidiomatic formulations. ”究竟要怎么表达这个同位语从句才能够idiomatic呢？

“Secondly, the negative ‘cannot' after 'bans' is illogical.”为什么bans后面的从句中不能有cannot呢？还是ban后的同位语从句要用possitive而不能用negative?
请教......

bigcamel · 发表于 2003-11-29 01:47:00

禁止某某不能做。。听起来是不是很不合情理。要ban的东东应是positive 的

sx_bj188 · 发表于 2003-11-30 01:16:00

以下是引用bigcamel在2003-11-29 1:47:00的发言：
禁止某某不能做。。听起来是不是很不合情理。要ban的东东应是positive 的

有道理，如果把cannot 改为can或是就不用情态动词，是不是作为同位语从句，E选项也可以算做正确了？

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bettyofarim · 发表于 2003-11-30 14:21:00

我个人觉得好象can not 态度太强硬了吧？况且原文用prohibiting 的应该优先考虑吧。 ban已经有不准做什么什么的意思了，再加个can not 那不是意思重复了吗？

JerryGuan · 发表于 2004-2-21 00:29:00

我也迷茫

prohibiting是不是修饰bans 的呢？

flora_wang · 发表于 2004-2-21 03:34:00

以下是引用bettyofarim在2003-11-30 14:21:00的发言：
我个人觉得好象can not 态度太强硬了吧？

觉得正好相反,cannot态度不够强呐...

ban v. to say that something must not be done,是禁止了,不是不能.

madtears · 发表于 2004-3-7 11:54:00

ban1
W3
noun [countable]
an official order that forbids something from being used or done: The President supports a global ban on nuclear testing

月亮生花 · 发表于 2004-4-18 01:19:00

d和e选项我还是不太明白啊

that从句应该是ban的同位语从句，应该是对ban的说明，不是ban的对象

翻译成“禁止某某不能做。。”我觉得是不恰当的，应该翻译成“加强了某某不能做什么的禁令“

这样看的话，用negative是很正常的啊！我的理解到底错在什么地方，请大家指正。谢谢

cocoabean · 发表于 2004-4-26 03:30:00

以下是引用月亮生花在2004-4-18 1:19:00的发言：

d和e选项我还是不太明白啊

that从句应该是ban的同位语从句，应该是对ban的说明，不是ban的对象

翻译成“禁止某某不能做。。”我觉得是不恰当的，应该翻译成“加强了某某不能做什么的禁令“

这样看的话，用negative是很正常的啊！我的理解到底错在什么地方，请大家指正。谢谢

enforce statewide bans that landfills accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings ”，应该是全州范围内执行"禁止landfills accept leaves, brush, and grass clippings "的禁令.而不是CANNOT accept，否则就变成支持它了，双重否定

魚子醬秋天 · 发表于 2004-5-15 18:31:00

about the 3th mention : 有道理，如果把cannot 改为can或是就不用情态动词，是不是作为同位语从句，E选项也可以算做正确了？............ 这样的句子似乎显得啰唆..应该也不会是好答案

what cocoabean said is so great ! in fact , people know that American is a "lazy " one. it's too troubled for them to express a meaning with 2 words which have the same concept . it's why the OG could ONLY use "unidiomatic formulations " to explain it ^ ^ Right ?

by the way ...i have a Q.....if what i though above is bullshit is it possible to substitute "must no"t for "can not" ?? it seems to have a little bit different in English

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