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Salary of CEIBS and CK MBA06

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发表于 2008-2-4 23:32:00 | 只看该作者

Salary of CEIBS and CK MBA06

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=16&replyid=2755836&id=296214&page=1&skin=0&Star=11

       After I post some numbers here, I got a lot of messages in CD, asking me about the salary things of CEIBS and CK MBA students.

       To be honest, I am not an expert in this area. I worked for a famous headhunter company, then I had some numbers in hand. When I saw numerous applicants arguing about the credibility of career reports of CEIBS, I wanna give some help.

        So far as I know, CEIBS and CK's career reports have some bubbles. And I assumed that everybody can imagine that. Although there are bubbles, they are not too big to be blew up. Basically, we could trust the numbers in the reports.

        But trusting numbers does not necessarily mean that you could understand the underlying contents.

        For CEIBS and CK MBA students, average salary offered by the job market is 1.8W-2.5W per month, that is 22W-30W per year(for chinese students). Then, we could find that CK's number is within this range, while CEIBS's number is beating the market expectation. Why?

        CEIBS has 10%-15% top students(20-30 persons). They already had outstanding background before CEIBS. They could go to U.S top 10 b-school if they wanted. They got many exciting offers, and their salaries are very high(ususlly more than 40W). Then we can check the numbers. We assume that the average salary of these 25 students  is 40W per year(maybe it is conservative). While 50 students could get 25W per year, the average number of above two sub-groups is 30W per year. If you then kick out 1/3 foreign students and 8%-10% jobless students(entrepreneurs) in CEIBS, you could know how "30W per year" comes from.

         For CK, CK does not have students who was recruited by MCK or JP Morgan. Although CK has top 10% offers whoes payment is above 30W per year, the average number is just 25W per year.

         In conclusion, TOP group(10%-15%) in CEIBS is great. Their performance made CEIBS's career report attractive

                                Middle group(60%-70%) in both schools is in the same level.

                                Low end group(15%) in CEIBS has more troubles in job hunting because lots of top and middle group students got more than two offers(but they could just take one), sounds like cannibalism.
 

          Below is some numbers for your reference

       CEIBS

          one or two offers from AXA, 2W/month

          one offer from GE capital,  2W/month

          one offer from GSK, no more than 2.5W/month, but 60-70 students from ceibs took the interviews, even they are not from pharma industry(WHY?)

          one offer from CICC,  no more than 2.2W/month

          one offer from Astrazeneca, no more than 2W/month

          offers from some second tier consulting companies, average number is 1.8-2.2W/month(consultant)

          one offer from HSBC, no less than 30W/year, he is a foreigner

          some offers from MCK, 60W per year

           CK

          3-4 offers from PE/VC, average number is above 2W per month(basic salary)

          some, maybe 2-3, offers from IB(1 from CICC), 2W per month(basic salary)

          1 offer from AXA, 2W per month

          2 offers from AT.K, above 2W per month

          1 offer from GSK, 40W per year

          some offers from IBM GBS, 25W-30W per year

          some offers from other consulting companies, above 25W per year

          1 offer from BOCSH, 50W per year

           Hope it could be helpful.


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沙发
发表于 2008-2-5 08:36:00 | 只看该作者

hi,bubbleft, thanks a lot for your sharing.

板凳
发表于 2008-2-5 10:08:00 | 只看该作者

Reasonable analysis, similar to the facts I know. It is helpful for applicants to make decision. Thanks!

地板
发表于 2008-2-5 10:12:00 | 只看该作者
对即将申请的同学是个很好的参考,谢谢。
期待能有实时更新。
5#
发表于 2008-2-5 11:19:00 | 只看该作者

有意思!非常到位的分析,看来非常熟悉两校

6#
发表于 2008-2-5 13:05:00 | 只看该作者
lz的数据有参考价值。我觉得以30岁的年龄,取得2万的薪水已经算above the average的话,这实在太可悲了。唉。哪里都是该死的泡沫。
7#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-2-5 13:52:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用看不下去了在2008-2-5 13:05:00的发言:
lz的数据有参考价值。我觉得以30岁的年龄,取得2万的薪水已经算above the average的话,这实在太可悲了。唉。哪里都是该死的泡沫。

       我不是特别同意这个观点

       MBA是一个积累, 并会逐渐放大, 或许现在是2W 每月, 但是随着工作经历的提高, 未来的机会会很多, 比起没有读过MBA的, 相应的把握机会的概率也要提高很多

       这也就是为什么美国很多商学院看毕业3年后的薪水水平的原因

8#
发表于 2008-2-5 14:19:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用bubbleft在2008-2-4 23:32:00的发言:

http://forum.chasedream.com/dispbbs.asp?boardid=16&replyid=2755836&id=296214&page=1&skin=0&Star=11

       After I post some numbers here, I got a lot of messages in CD, asking me about the salary things of CEIBS and CK MBA students.

       To be honest, I am not an expert in this area. I worked for a famous headhunter company, then I had some numbers in hand. When I saw numerous applicants arguing about the credibility of career reports of CEIBS, I wanna give some help.

        So far as I know, CEIBS and CK's career reports have some bubbles. And I assumed that everybody can imagine that. Although there are bubbles, they are not too big to be blew up. Basically, we could trust the numbers in the reports.

        But trusting numbers does not necessarily mean that you could understand the underlying contents.

        For CEIBS and CK MBA students, average salary offered by the job market is 1.8W-2.5W per month, that is 22W-30W per year(for chinese students). Then, we could find that CK's number is within this range, while CEIBS's number is beating the market expectation. Why?

        CEIBS has 10%-15% top students(20-30 persons). They already had outstanding background before CEIBS. They could go to U.S top 10 b-school if they wanted. They got many exciting offers, and their salaries are very high(ususlly more than 40W). Then we can check the numbers. We assume that the average salary of these 25 students  is 40W per year(maybe it is conservative). While 50 students could get 25W per year, the average number of above two sub-groups is 30W per year. If you then kick out 1/3 foreign students and 8%-10% jobless students(entrepreneurs) in CEIBS, you could know how "30W per year" comes from.

         For CK, CK does not have students who was recruited by MCK or JP Morgan. Although CK has top 10% offers whoes payment is above 30W per year, the average number is just 25W per year.

         In conclusion, TOP group(10%-15%) in CEIBS is great. Their performance made CEIBS's career report attractive

                                Middle group(60%-70%) in both schools is in the same level.

                                Low end group(15%) in CEIBS has more troubles in job hunting because lots of top and middle group students got more than two offers(but they could just take one), sounds like cannibalism.
 

          Below is some numbers for your reference

       CEIBS

          one or two offers from AXA, 2W/month

          one offer from GE capital,  2W/month

          one offer from GSK, no more than 2.5W/month, but 60-70 students from ceibs took the interviews, even they are not from pharma industry(WHY?)

          one offer from CICC,  no more than 2.2W/month

          one offer from Astrazeneca, no more than 2W/month

          offers from some second tier consulting companies, average number is 1.8-2.2W/month(consultant)

          one offer from HSBC, no less than 30W/year, he is a foreigner

          some offers from MCK, 60W per year

           CK

          3-4 offers from PE/VC, average number is above 2W per month(basic salary)

          some, maybe 2-3, offers from IB(1 from CICC), 2W per month(basic salary)

          1 offer from AXA, 2W per month

          2 offers from AT.K, above 2W per month

          1 offer from GSK, 40W per year

          some offers from IBM GBS, 25W-30W per year

          some offers from other consulting companies, above 25W per year

          1 offer from BOCSH, 50W per year

           Hope it could be helpful.


Could you tell us any information about job title ? thank you.

9#
发表于 2008-2-5 14:21:00 | 只看该作者
呵呵,挺好的分析,如果能有更多的样本就好了,不知去金融、咨询和医药行业以外的行业是什么情况
10#
发表于 2008-2-5 17:58:00 | 只看该作者

这类信息对准备就读的很有帮助,谢谢分享。

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