ChaseDream
搜索
12345下一页
返回列表 发新帖
查看: 18491|回复: 47
打印 上一主题 下一主题

LSE vs ETH vs Michigan

[复制链接]
楼主
发表于 2008-5-4 14:44:00 | 只看该作者

LSE vs ETH vs Michigan

LSE vs Michigan vs ETH
    E-mail 此主題給朋友
    

I got offers from the following three master programs

LSE MSc Risk and Stochastics (Duration: 10 months, Tuition fee: 17000 pounds, Living Expense: 8000 pounds, class size 25, no internship, no thesis requirement)
Course Structure: http://www.lse.ac.uk/resources/g ... kandStochastics.htm

ETH MAS in Finance (Quantitative Finance and Risk Management)
(Duration: 14-15 months, Tuition fee: 5000 CHF, Living Expense: 20000 CHF, class size 20-25, compulsory company master thesis, internship arrangement but not guaranteed)

Course Structure: http://www.msfinance.ch/2007/Courses.html

Placement Record: http://www.alumni-msfinance.ch/classvisitor.php?klassenid=3

University of Michigan AnnArbor (Master of Financial Engineering)
(Duration: 12-15 months, Tuition Fee: 50000 USD, Living Expense: 20000 USD, class size 45-50, Applied Finance Project, internship arrangement but not guaranteed)

Course Structure: http://interpro-academics.engin.umich.edu/fep/curriculum.htm

Placement Record: Summer Internship for Umich MFE ( Not very impressive indeed, cos only around 60% students got internship offer...28 out of 50....and no top 1st tier banks like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, RBS)


Please find below some internship offers that are already received by our current students:


AXA Investment management - CDO
Barclays Capital - Technology (New York)
Blackrock Inc. (New York)
CICC - Capital Markets (Beijing)
DRW Trading - Trading (Chicago)
DTE Energy - Energy Trading (Ann Arbor)
DTE Energy - Risk Management (Ann Arbor)
DTE Energy - Risk Management (Ann Arbor)
DTE Energy - Risk Management (Ann Arbor)
Deutsche Bank - Global Banking (Hong Kong)     
Deutsche Bank - Global Markets (New York)
Deutsche Bank - Global Markets (New York)
Deutsche Bank - Global Markets (India)
JPMorgan - Structuring & Trading (New York)
JPMorgan - Technology (Chicago)
Lehman Brothers - Investment Banking (Hong Kong)
Lehman Brothers - Technology (New York)
Lincoln Investment Group - Portfolio Management
Riskmetrix Group - Technology (Ann Arbor)
Societe Generale  - Global Equities & Derivatives Solutions (Hong Kong)
Societe Generale  - Global Equities & Derivatives Solutions (Hong Kong)
UBS - Fixed Income Sales & Trading (Hong Kong)
UBS – Investment Banking (Hong Kong)
UBS - Technology (Stamford)
Some hedge fund (Ann Arobr)
Some trading firm (Paris)
Some trading firm (Singapore)
Some Bank (Hong Kong)

which one should I choose?
Personally, I may prefer ETH cos it is cheaper with strong placement records as well. The overall ranking of three U's , ETH, LSE, UMich are nearly the same ( Around top 30-50 )

I have discussed this issue with a plenty of academics, practitioners....they all told me that the three programs above have their own merits and drawbacks.

For LSE, it has very strong network with banking industry and London is a great financial hub (just behind New York City). However, the course structure is not very solid (some of them are related to insurance mathematics and just 6 taught courses)  and short in duration with no internship nor thesis arrangement. In addition, LSE is strong in finance and economics traditionally instead of the maths department.

For UMich, it also has a very strong name in US and Hong Kong. With the backup from Ross Business School, there is a good balance between business-oriented and hard engineering training skills. The MFE program is very practical in overall. Plus holding a US degree should be better for job seeking in financial industry. But, the location of UMich at AnnArbor is not that good and quite expensive.

For ETH, one of the top 5 schools in Europe, (1,2 Oxbridge, 3. IC 4,5 ETH or LSE ) it is very strong in natural science including maths and it is established with Swiss Banking Institutes. The course structure is solid, you need to take around 10 courses in one semester followed by a company thesis and internship. However, the location of ETH is not that good though Zurich is another financial hub, in particular, on the asset management aspect. Their alumni told me that ETH is reputable for European Banks (UBS, CS, DB, KBC, ABN, Rabo, SwissRe, SG, BNP, Natixis, Caylon etc.)  only rather US Banks.

I am still struggling between these three choices.....
I look forward to any kindly reply. Thanks
沙发
发表于 2008-5-4 18:10:00 | 只看该作者

同属一个档次,不多选欧还是选美就是你自己的意愿了。按照现在的态势看来,LSE应该比UMICH好点点,ETHZ虽然号称欧洲最好金融类项目,但是始终不是英语母语国家。楼主强人,CONG!


[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-4 18:10:05编辑过]
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 20:16:00 | 只看该作者

How about if I wanna work in Hong Kong as a credit/market risk analyst?

do you think it may be beneficial if I apply European banks after ETH program?

LSE MSc Risk and Stochastics is good due to the brand name of LSE....but the course structure seems to be less solid...just 6 taught courses.....

Actually, UMich is a good school but not a top school in US.......

It is heard that the top master of finance programs in Europe should be:

1. LBS Master of Finance

2. LSE Master of Econ and Finance

3. Oxford MSc Computational Finance

4. Cambridge Mphil Finance

5. ETH MAS in Finace

6. Imperial College MSc Maths and Finance

7. Paris VI DEA Probability and Finance....

What do you think?  


[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-4 20:18:20编辑过]
地板
发表于 2008-5-4 20:56:00 | 只看该作者
ETH的就业公司普遍都一般阿,档次上没有Umich的实习公司好。
5#
发表于 2008-5-4 21:00:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用pgstudent在2008-5-4 20:16:00的发言:

How about if I wanna work in Hong Kong as a credit/market risk analyst?

do you think it may be beneficial if I apply European banks after ETH program?

LSE MSc Risk and Stochastics is good due to the brand name of LSE....but the course structure seems to be less solid...just 6 taught courses.....

Actually, UMich is a good school but not a top school in US.......

It is heard that the top master of finance programs in Europe should be:

1. LBS Master of Finance

2. LSE Master of Econ and Finance

3. Oxford MSc Computational Finance

4. Cambridge Mphil Finance

5. ETH MAS in Finace

6. Imperial College MSc Maths and Finance

7. Paris VI DEA Probability and Finance....

What do you think?  


欧洲的Top Master Prog多了去了

能拿出手的还有St Gallen,Boconni,HEC,X,SSE等等。

X的竞争力在欧洲很强大,绝对不次于oxbridge,city里面N多X的校友,很多desk都是法国人,communication用法语的。FT有文章说X占据了city的半壁江山。

6#
发表于 2008-5-4 21:02:00 | 只看该作者
market/credit risk management 工作很无聊的,趁早打消这个念头吧。
7#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 21:14:00 | 只看该作者
But the requirements for landing a risk management job is lower than quant/structurer/asset analyst.....
8#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 21:19:00 | 只看该作者

How do you know the job placement of ETH program is rather impressive?

Well, I would say LSE's brand name is really very reputable in London area....but in term of quantitative related area, it is not the strengthen area of LSE.....unlike their econ and finance program.....

U Mich is also good...but can not compare with top US like Princeton, Columbia, NYU, UCB, CMU, Stanford, Chicago....etc.


[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-4 21:24:54编辑过]
9#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 21:23:00 | 只看该作者

In US, there are many top programs....

1. Princeton Master of Finance

2. Columbia Master of Financial Engineering

3. UC Berkeley Master of Financial Engineering

4. NYU Master of financial maths

5. CMU Master of computational finance

6. Stanford Master of financial maths

7. Chicago U Master of financial maths

8. Cornell Master of Financial Engineering

9. UCLA Master of Financial Engineering

10. U Mich Master of Financial Engineering......

and even

11. Baruch Master of financial Engineering......

the competiton for US banks is even higher!!!!!

10#
 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 21:27:00 | 只看该作者

ETH should be better than St.Gallen wor....

您需要登录后才可以回帖 登录 | 立即注册

Mark一下! 看一下! 顶楼主! 感谢分享! 快速回复:

IESE MBA
近期活动

正在浏览此版块的会员 ()

手机版|ChaseDream|GMT+8, 2025-1-5 07:44
京公网安备11010202008513号 京ICP证101109号 京ICP备12012021号

ChaseDream 论坛

© 2003-2023 ChaseDream.com. All Rights Reserved.

返回顶部