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江南天阔 · 发表于 2003-10-8 23:20:00

Because of the enormous research and
development expenditures required to survive in the electronics industry, an industry marked by rapid innovation and volatile demand, such firms tend to be very large.
(A)    to survive
(B)    of firms to survive
(C)    for surviving
(D)    for survival
(E)    for firms' survival
The subject of the main clause (such firms) presumes a prior reference to the firms in question. Furthermore, the logical subject of to survive and the logical complement of required should be made explicit. All three demands are met by B, the best choice. Choices A, C, and D, with no reference to the firms in question, meet none of these demands. In choice E, the illogical and awkward use of a prepositional phrase (for firms' survival) buries the needed initial reference to firms in a possessive modifier.

B和E还是分不清，除了E用FOR以外还有什么错误？

nina23 · 发表于 2003-10-8 23:36:00

require (of) sb to do sth.

require that+ clause

江南天阔 · 发表于 2003-10-9 00:25:00

以下是引用nina23在2003-10-8 23:36:00的发言：
require (of) sb to do sth.

require that+ clause

谢谢MM。

Mchao_l · 发表于 2003-10-24 05:16:00

有点问题呀, OG 109 说, 是of造成了错误, 大家再解释一下好吗?

109. Legislation in the Canadian province of Ontario requires of both public and private employers that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are usually held by men.

(A)    that pay be the same for jobs historically held by women as for jobs requiring comparable skill that are
(B)    that pay for jobs historically held by women should be the same as for a job requiring comparable skills
(C)    to pay the same in jobs historically held by women as in jobs of comparable skill that are
(D)    to pay the same regardless of whether a job was historically held by women or is one demanding comparable skills
(E)    to pay as much for jobs historically held by women as for a job demanding comparable skills

Choice A is best. In choice B, should is illogical after requires, or at least unnecessary, and so is better omitted; in choices B and E, job does not agree in number with jobs; and in choices B, D, and E, the wording illogically describes the comparable skills rather than the jobs as being "usually held by men." Choices C, D, and E produce the ungrammatical construction requires of... employers to pay, in which of makes the phrase incorrect. In C, the use of in rather than for is unidiomatic, and jobs of comparable skill confusedly suggests that the jobs rather than the workers possess the skills. In D, the phrase beginning regardless ... is awkward and wordy in addition to being illogical.

希望大家再讨论一下这个require的使用问题. 谢过..

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joywzy · 发表于 2003-10-24 18:01:00

OG109,C/D/E的require of 这个用法,应该是对的,不明白啊.哪位能讲讲?谢谢.

yongchou · 发表于 2003-12-10 12:41:00

for active mood,
require sb/sth to V
require sb/sth that
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for passive,
sth be required of sb/sth to V

Snazzy · 发表于 2003-12-10 13:32:00

but there is a sentence in teh dictionary: Do u need anything of me? How would u explain it, Yongchou, please?

gmatchenaimin · 发表于 2003-12-18 12:26:00

LZM害死人!
1) 就没有required of sb to do sth 这个习惯用法.
require sb to do sth, yes!
2) A is required of sb. to do sth, correct!
但它的主动语态的表示是,
it require of sb A to do sth. 用了习惯用法: require of sb. sth.
"to do sth" 是逻辑主语.

atasl · 发表于 2003-12-18 12:39:00

严重同意楼上，这句话本是：It requires of firms enormous research and development expenditures to survive in the electronics industry.

LES · 发表于 2004-4-5 15:29:00

看了前面的讨论，似懂非懂，还是一片糊涂！！！

请NN先解释一下OG的这句解释“Furthermore, the logical subject of to survive and the logical complement of required should be made explicit.”

再请NN解释一下require 在这里的用法，其逻辑主语，逻辑宾语各是什么？
字典上有“习惯用语require sth. of sb. 对某人有...的要求”是这里的用法吗？

第三问，这里可不可以改成required by firms to survive？意思上有什么区别？

不甚感激！

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