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sbbi · 发表于 2003-9-7 09:56:00

80. Salt deposits and moisture threaten to destroy the Mohenjo-Daro excavation in Pakistan, the site of an ancient civilization that flourished at the same time as the civilizations in the Nile delta and the river valleys of the Tigris and Euphrates.

A) that flourished at the same time as the civilizations
(B) that had flourished at the same time as had the civilizations
(C) that flourished at the same time those had
(D) flourishing at the same time as those did
(E) flourishing at the same time as those were

answer is A.

Quetions:
1) Can the 2nd "as" in A be replaced by "that"? In OG 174, I saw "(C) A letter by Mark Twain, written in the same year that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published".

2) In A, I think there should be a "did" before "the civilizations".

3) In A, can "the civilizations" be replaced by "those"?

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198. Although Napoleon's army entered Russia with far more supplies than they had in their previous campaigns, it had provisions for only twenty-four days.
(A) they had in their previous campaigns
(B) their previous campaigns had had
(C) they had for any previous campaign
(D) in their previous campaigns
(E) for any previous campaign

Answer is E.
I agree. But I think there should be a "those" before "for".
Or it should be "than it had had for ..."

Can anyone explain to me why it is valid to omit these stuffs? thanks!

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218. Despite protests from some waste-disposal companies, state health officials have ordered the levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches to be measured and that the results be published.
(A) the levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches to be measured and that the results be
(B) that seawater at popular beaches should be measured for their levels of bacteria, with the results being
(C) the measure of levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches and the results to be
(D) seawater measured at popular beaches for levels of bacteria, with their results
(E) that the levels of bacteria in seawater at popular beaches be measured and the results

Answer E.

1) According to OG SC 250, "announced that x and that y". So in E, I think there should be a 2nd "that" after "and"

2) If 1) is OK without "that", there should be a comma before "and". See OG 135:
Intar, the oldest Hispanic theater company in New York, has moved away from the Spanish classics and now it draws on the works both of contemporary Hispanic authors who live abroad and of those in the United States.
(A) now it draws on the works both of contemporary Hispanic authors who live abroad and of
(C) it draws on the works of contemporary Hispanic authors now, both those living abroad and who live

In choices A and C, it intrudes between the halves of the compound verb has moved... and [now] draws to introduce a new grammatical subject, thereby creating a run-on sentence:
the inclusion of it requires a comma after classics to set off the new independent clause.

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222. By a vote of 9 to 0, the Supreme Court awarded the Central Intelligence Agency broad discretionary powers enabling it to withhold from the public the identities of its sources of intelligence information.
(A) enabling it to withhold from the public
(B) for it to withhold from the public
(C) for withholding disclosure to the public of
(D) that enable them to withhold from public disclosure
(E) that they can withhold public disclosure of

Answer is A.

Why can it insert "from the public" between "witthold" and "the identities"? Also in OG 258, it is OK to say "note as an example that somebody do something".

But, in OG 92, it is wrong to say "confronted at once so many changes". Also I met a SC, it is wrong to say "raised at its meeting the possiblity".

braveMBA · 发表于 2003-9-7 12:10:00

80.
1) No, you can not, because it is not a sentence after "that" .
2) Yes, the better one should include "did", but if you have to choose the better one in provided choices, then A is the best of them.
3) No, you can not use "those", because there is no referent. Pay attention to this point, we should not use pronoun according to our minds, while we have to find the clear referent. You know, "civilization" appears in the foregoing sentence, so we have to use "civilizations".

198. I agree with you. However, if omitted, the sentence does not mean wrong.

218. I think, in 250, there is another important reason for us to fill "that". Have you noticed that the tense of each part is different, so it had better to use another "that" to eliminate the irrationality of the parataxis. But in 218, the two parts are same in subject, predicate , as well as tense. So, I think it is right.

222. It is a hyperbatic structure, or "[withhold] the identities of its sources of intelligence information [from the public] ". Do so only because "withhold" is too far from "from the public". This is common in ETS sentence.

Aboved mentioned reasons are all my own opinions, hope those help you.

sbbi · 发表于 2003-9-7 23:29:00

braveMBA,thanks for your response.
80. 2)if "add" is put, should we replace "as" with "that"?

218. the two parts have the different subjects and tense

thx!

以下是引用braveMBA在2003-9-7 12:10:00的发言：
80.
1) No, you can not, because it is not a sentence after "that" .
2) Yes, the better one should include "did", but if you have to choose the better one in provided choices, then A is the best of them.
3) No, you can not use "those", because there is no referent. Pay attention to this point, we should not use pronoun according to our minds, while we have to find the clear referent. You know, "civilization" appears in the foregoing sentence, so we have to use "civilizations".

198. I agree with you. However, if omitted, the sentence does not mean wrong.

218. I think, in 250, there is another important reason for us to fill "that". Have you noticed that the tense of each part is different, so it had better to use another "that" to eliminate the irrationality of the parataxis. But in 218, the two parts are same in subject, predicate , as well as tense. So, I think it is right.

222. It is a hyperbatic structure, or "[withhold] the identities of its sources of intelligence information [from the public] ". Do so only because "withhold" is too far from "from the public". This is common in ETS sentence.

Aboved mentioned reasons are all my own opinions, hope those help you.

braveMBA · 发表于 2003-9-8 01:39:00

Sorry , I made a mistake in explanation of 222. But I think because the meaning of each part is parallel, and they have same tense.So I think the most important thing is the meaning fo sentence, compared with format of it.

80. I think the author of this sentence wants to compare two objects in original meaning of it. So, here , "as" is better than "that". If replaced by "that", the meaning would be changed. But, OG 174 is different, "that The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was published" is the appositive of "year". But, don't worry about that, often, the original sentence will not transfer two indiscriminative meanings to us. I am not sure, maybe, you are right. Actually, if we know about that, all are ok.

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