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[选校] 求选校 【含BG】ESCP MiM 和 Bocconi MSF

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发表于 2021-4-28 16:53:26 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
背景回复可见~~~5.12就要交留位费了985会计GPA3.8 GRE330 托福105+
两个海外学期交换,一个暑校
4个实习(中资500强 商业分析*1,中资500强 财务分析*1,
中资投行*1,外资私募*1)


可能想干投资银行方面的工作,想在欧洲或者是伦敦上班,但是最近疫情,招全职员工可能会减少?(除了restructuring?)
本来被escp MiM录取了,就准备去了,但是bocconi MSF又发了录取,就很纠结,
两个都给了奖学金,但是不用把学费和奖学金金额纳入考量范畴;也不用把所在城市是否好玩纳入考量范围,只考虑欧洲或者伦敦就业;
如果决定去escp,肯定会疯狂学法语(现在完全不会说法语,打出这句话的时候害怕),会在第二年gap year实习;最后年选伦敦校区
如果决定去bocconi,基本不会学意大利语,会更加看伦敦的招聘机会
求求在两所学校念过的小可爱,或者是对行业有了解的小可爱给下建议,救救孩子

主要考虑一点:
1. bocconi的名气加成(比escp作为目标院校的tier更高)+在伦敦投资银行更强大的出现频率和校友资源(又有多少可以分到中国人身上?)
2. escp的:三年(利用好巴黎的实习资源?gap year两份投资银行相关实习)+最后一年伦敦校区(方便networking,面试;可以办英国学生签——转PSW,在英国脱欧后,相较于传统的欧陆目标院校,是否会利好escp?)
1,2相较,哪一个会更加利好???或者说对比这两所学校,还有什么其他的方面???
ps:bocconi MSF我在领英上找到中国同学最近几年毕业的,全职有:HSBC IB London,DB IB London,PIMCO,MS IB London,Citi IB London,CMC IB London,UBS IB London...




2021年5月25号更新:
最后还是选择去了ESCP的MiM,
在其他的论坛上面看到:
第一个人:
Bocconi will give you more opportunities in terms of branding. Attending ESCP(第二年在伦敦) means you won't need visa in UK which is a very important issue to bear in mind. All BB sponsor, but TBH the chances of landing a summer/FT offer in a BB are slim. If you don't need visa your recruiting opportunities will expand significantly in UK. If you need it, you are pushed to apply to BB and some EB which are extremely competitive.
第二个人:
He is non-EU, so he need visa regardless
第三个人:
I think that as a student studying in UK, you already have a visa that allows you to stay and work for some time (probably 2 years) after the end of your degree, so you would be able to work also for lower tier boutiques, that instead may not sponsor a student studying in EU.
第一个人:
That's the point!!
第二个人:
"working at lower tier Boutique" Is that the best case scenario for a non EU graduating from a top tier university in UK even after staying and working for 2 years post masters?
第一个人:
No, after the MSc you'll (hopefully) do an internship. Best case is you get into a BB/EBs (that sponsor visa also for EU/non EU student); worst case is you get nothing. In between you can find an internship at lower tier boutiques that don't sponsor visa, hence only UK students or EU students with pre settled / settled status can work there.
Hence, since getting into a BB/EB is not easy (not impossible, but not easy), if you go to Bocconi (or any other EU university) you preclude yourself from applying to lower tier firms in London and, since you don't speak Italian, you also preclude yourself from applying to lower tier firms in Milan (that's not Milan-specific but Europe-specific, where you almost always need fluency in the country language).
However, if you go to any UK university, you should get a visa that allows you to work for 2 years in London, hence you get the optionality to work for lower tier firms there (if you don't land an internship in a BB/EB).
What happens after 2 years is obscure to me, but I suppose that, if you're FT in a London firm, they can sponsor you a visa.
(这里说的很对,因为伦敦只有BB和一些EB才不太会考虑sponsor的成本,可以疯狂的sponsor,但是MM和boutique都会把是否有working visa作为考量的点,如果没有working visa,选择几乎只能够局限在BB和强势的EB上面,千军万马过独木桥,我觉得自己找到伦敦BB和EB前台的可能性微乎其微,但是如果有了working visa,选择可以扩展到MM和小的boutique,可能性会提升较多)
ESCP的MiM可进可退,可以找伦敦的BB/EB/MM/boutique,可以找巴黎的BB/EB/MM/boutique(但是巴黎投行招聘full-time的headcount,相较于伦敦而言,很少很少很少,对于法语要求极其高),就算回国找工作,在ESCP MiM间隔年的巴黎的实习,也会对回国找工作有很大的帮助,怎么都可以带点东西走
但是脱欧对于欧盟院校在伦敦的招聘影响到底怎么样,都还是未知数(我自己可能会比较倾向于认为,对于欧盟院校不利好,对于英国学校利好,因为德意志银行2020 virtual暑期实习,好像取消了非英国学生的暑期实习,原因是脱欧工签问题)
bocconi是很好的学校,但是可能单纯和我没缘分吧。










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