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分词和形容词的平行问题求解!

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发表于 2017-3-8 11:57:56 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
RON的课2012/01/05(SC)里有这样一道题:
Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, the tomato is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, inclduing belladonna, and was once thought to be pousonous itself as a result.

A Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, the tomato is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, inclduing belladonna, and was once thought to be pousonous itself as a result.

B The tomato, though now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, is a member of the generally toxic nightshaade family, which includes belladonna, and it was therefore once thought to be poisonous itself.

C once thought to be poisonous itself, the tomato is harmless and now eaten in large quantitis around the world, and is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna.

D Though now eaten in large quantities around the world and known to be harmless, the tomato was once considered poisonous because it is a member of the generally toxic nightshade family, which includes belladonna.

E A member of the generally toxic nightshade family, including belladonna, the tomato was once considered poisonous even though it is harmless and now eaten in large quantitis around the world.
OA:D

关于“eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless”, Tommy说the gmat doesn't like to parallel a really wordy modifier and a really concise modifier. 但是单从语法上说,past participle可以和adj平行吗?though eaten in large quantities/though harmless, the tomato is....都可以成立吗
tommy还提到这里comma+including是dangling modifier, 但ron说这个结构应该是紧修饰preceding noun. 这个结构对吗


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沙发
发表于 2017-3-8 13:14:53 | 只看该作者
個人認為就文法來說是可以用though 分詞+ adj, .......... (求高手討論)


但就這題而言,如果用上面的用法,代表兩個時態一致, now eaten in large quantities around the world and harmless, 前面用現在式沒有問題,但第二個用現在式有含意是以前到現在一直都無害,明顯影響句意

至於 which includes 和 including 的差別,including是指代包含of前面的名詞, 比如A的including指代到a member of the generally toxic nightshade family,如果只有一個member 怎麼還用including呢, 答案的D which則可以指代 family 或 a member
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2017-3-8 17:46:57 | 只看该作者
sheanen 发表于 2017-3-8 13:14
個人認為就文法來說是可以用though 分詞+ adj, .......... (求高手討論)

谢谢解答! 请问including指代of前面的Noun是一个规则吗,有没有能修饰of后面名词的例子?
地板
 楼主| 发表于 2017-3-8 18:11:37 | 只看该作者
还有A B选项中的itself是不是多余结构?
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发表于 2017-3-8 19:29:53 | 只看该作者
首先我不是很同意在这句语境中 though eaten 和 后面的harmless 可以平行。虽然过去分词在语法中可以用来做ADJ 但是在这句句子的意思中明显表达的是被动而不是ADJ,所以和后面的harmless 是在语义上就是不能够平行的。 从更加深层次的逻辑上来讲,一样东西到底有害没害是这样东西的nature, 不会随这时间的改变而有所改变,改变的只是人们对这样东西nature 的认知,所以这里D中用known to be harmless 是正确的逻辑选择。

comma including 是 comma Ving 中的一个特例,就像RON说的是修饰preceding noun 的。这里是不可以的。至于为什么RON在帖子里说的很清楚了,楼主请移步去查看 https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/forums/confusion-in-sc-question-bank-q-7-t3222-45.html

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发表于 2017-3-8 19:31:17 | 只看该作者
闭眼看书 发表于 2017-3-8 18:11
还有A B选项中的itself是不是多余结构?

楼主RON的帖子里对itself 说的很清楚,连接我放在我上面的帖子里了, 请楼主移步去查看
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-3-8 19:36:31 | 只看该作者
emmahiggins09 发表于 2017-3-8 19:31
楼主RON的帖子里对itself 说的很清楚,连接我放在我上面的帖子里了, 请楼主移步去查看 ...

是的 正在看这个帖子,itself应该是做强调用的
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发表于 2017-3-8 23:19:14 | 只看该作者
emmahiggins09 发表于 2017-3-8 19:29
首先我不是很同意在这句语境中 though eaten 和 后面的harmless 可以平行。虽然过去分词在语法中可以用来做 ...

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