OG的一道题目，请指教

DAvidh22 · 发表于 2016-11-14 23:37:58

OG16-113
M's conception of the radio was as a substitute for the telephone,a tool for private conversation; instead, it is precisely the opposite,a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.

正确答案C : M conceived of the radio as a tool for private conversation that could substitute for the telephone; instead,it has become

请教一下各位大神们，C答案中的“it”为什么不存在指代不明的问题，我觉得“it” 既有可能指代“telephone” 又可能是“the radio”

Jagabee · 发表于 2016-11-15 09:51:08

1. 指代不明是一个相对性错误, 一般不能用于排除选项。代词的绝对性错误一般是a. 没有先行词, 或指代的先行词概念与句意不符 b. 单复数不符

2. 换言之, 依照句意, it在这题里是不存在指代telephone的嫌疑的. Radio could substitute for the telephone; instead, it has become precisely the opposite,a tool for communicating with a large, public audience.
a. common sense, telephone不是一个和大众交流的工具, radio 才是.
b. Radio虽然在原题是宾语, 实际在对比的概念上作的substitue的动作主体. it同理也是become the tool for communicating with a large, public audience的动作主体, 位置对应.

DAvidh22 · 发表于 2016-11-15 11:30:12

Jagabee 发表于 2016-11-15 09:51
1. 指代不明是一个相对性错误, 一般不能用于排除选项。代词的绝对性错误一般是a. 没有先行词, 或指代的先行 ...

谢谢！也就是说，代词指代模糊在GMAT考试中不能作为排出选择的选项咯？再加上从make sense 的角度来看，只要不存在太大争议，也就是没问题的？
OG16-110中
C、An executive who is heavily committed to a course of action is likely to

miss or misinterpret signs of incipient trouble when they do appear, especially if it has worked well in the past

E、Being heavily committed to a course of action, especially one that has worked well in the past, is likely to make an executive miss signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear.

其中C选项里主要出在IT 的指代模糊上面，如果没有这个问题，我觉得C选项比正确答案E要好一些
麻烦大神解释一下= = 确实有点懵

Jagabee · 发表于 2016-11-15 12:46:33

DAvidh22 发表于 2016-11-15 11:30
谢谢！也就是说，代词指代模糊在GMAT考试中不能作为排出选择的选项咯？再加上从make sense 的角度来看， ...

是的，几乎没有代词指代不清而排除的选项. 如果不是上面两个原因, 一般排除选项都是因为其存在绝对性的错误.

C的it指a course of action没指代不清的问题. 大神Ron的解释是错误在于miss or misinterpret signs of incipient trouble when they do appear, 表达的意思是miss signs of incipient trouble when they do appear, or misinterpret signs of incipient trouble when they do appear. 这里的句意是executives要么没看见signs, 要么看见了也误解. 这个可能是因为英文和中文的习惯表达方式, 导致了理解上的分歧.

DAvidh22 · 发表于 2016-11-15 13:58:09

Jagabee 发表于 2016-11-15 12:46
是的，几乎没有代词指代不清而排除的选项. 如果不是上面两个原因, 一般排除选项都是因为其存在绝对性的错 ...

这里我还是不太明白
miss or misinterpret the signs of trouble when they do appear
与 miss the signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear 这两者之间有什么区别

我觉得无论是miss 还是 misinterpret 都是建立在有 signs of incipient trouble 的基础上的，所以when they do appear 我觉得是可以适用与这两个动词的

DAvidh22 · 发表于 2016-11-15 14:00:28

Jagabee 发表于 2016-11-15 12:46
是的，几乎没有代词指代不清而排除的选项. 如果不是上面两个原因, 一般排除选项都是因为其存在绝对性的错 ...

这里我还是不太明白
miss or misinterpret the signs of trouble when they do appear
与 miss the signs of incipient trouble or misinterpret them when they do appear 这两者之间有什么区别

我觉得无论是miss 还是 misinterpret 都是建立在有 signs of incipient trouble 的基础上的，所以when they do appear 我觉得是可以适用与这两个动词的

Jagabee · 发表于 2016-11-15 14:52:37

DAvidh22 发表于 2016-11-15 14:00
这里我还是不太明白
miss or misinterpret the signs of trouble when they do appear
与 miss the sign ...

贴ron的解释给你. 因为do appear, 带了强调的tone来表对比, 侧面反映出signs在前一种情况是没有出现的.

there's also the way "miss" and "misinterpret" are arranged.
in this context, we're saying that the executive is likely to do one of 2 things:
1/ miss signs of trouble (meaning that they don't "appear" to the executive at all); or
2/ misinterpret them if they do appear. (note the function of "do" here -- specifically to contrast this situation with the other one, in which the signs don't "appear" to the executive at all.)

in the correct answer, these are arranged logically; in (c), on the other hand, we're accidentally saying that the executive will miss the signs even when (s)he doesn't miss them.

DAvidh22 · 发表于 2016-11-15 16:45:37

Jagabee 发表于 2016-11-15 14:52
贴ron的解释给你. 因为do appear, 带了强调的tone来表对比, 侧面反映出signs在前一种情况是没有出现的.
...

谢谢！！！！太感谢了！！！
虽然还不是太懂，但是大概明白了 C选项强调的事件的是否发生跟前半句的 miss signs 逻辑上是有错的
慢慢去消化
非常感谢

Jagabee · 发表于 2016-11-15 16:54:34

DAvidh22 发表于 2016-11-15 16:45
谢谢！！！！太感谢了！！！
虽然还不是太懂，但是大概明白了 C选项强调的事件的是否发生跟前半句的 mi ...

不客气, 我也同样是消化后才接受的, 可能是中文的习惯思维方式影响了我们.
最好的办法就是不同选项中结构有变动的, 排除到最后两个的时候, 要想想这两个句子结构位置的变动有什么意义，是否有优劣.

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