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楼主
发表于 2003-8-17 21:16:00 | 只看该作者

比较的问题

1、Certain pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place; one reson is suggested by the finding that there are much larger populations of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in soils that are free of such chemicals.
(A)Certain pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place; one reson is suggested by the finding that there are much larger populations of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in soils that are free of such chemicals.
(E) The finding of much larger populations of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in those that are free of such chemicals suggests one reason certain pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place.
答案是A,我没有疑问??
(1)可是为什么OG(200题)说E是一个不正确的比较呢?我觉着E选项从比较这一点上说应该没什么问题啊?those 指带soils啊?比较中不是要用that或those来指带前面重复的名词吗??那么它又与A中的直接用in soils...than in soils有什么区别呢?
(2)想问一下修饰的问题
还是这个E选项,稍微改动一下
the finding...suggests one reason that certain pesticides can become ineffective if used...
像这种重句套着重句,if从句修饰谁该如何判断呢?是修饰宾语重句呢还是修饰主句呢?因为这个涉及到 if used的逻辑主语的问题??
2、Although Napoleon's army entered Russia with far more supplies than (they had in their previous campaigns), it had provisions for only twenty-four days.
E. for any previous campaign.
问一下这个是不是个省略,(it had had ) for any previous campaign??是不??但是总觉着有些别扭啊??(OG 198)
3、In one of the bloodiest battles of the Civil War, fought at Sharpsburg, Maryland, on September 17, 1862, four times as many (Americans were killed as) would later be killed on the beaches of Mormandy during D-Day.
A. Americans were killed as
C. Americans were killed than those who
E. more Americans were killed as those who
答案同意是A,可是为什么OG上说in C and E, those who is a wordy intrusion??如果按照他的说法,那么C和E稍稍改动一下 Americans were killed as those who 是不是也不对呢??
沙发
发表于 2003-8-17 22:04:00 | 只看该作者
1.
1)比较的是populations, 所以than后面应该补出those(指populations) of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils free of such chemicals,简略点 those in soils free of such chemicals,甚至in soils free of such chemicals,也比E选项中莫名奇妙的结构要强。
2)个人认为,如果无法清晰的判断修饰,(从而判断逻辑和语法上一致,)就很可能是错误的选项。(避实就虚...//blush)

2  than (those the army had) for any previous campaign
    btw 这里用过去一般时没什么问题吧?

3. C. than不对; E. more不对。 correctness的没搞定,effectiveness的再弄也...










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板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2003-8-17 22:07:00 | 只看该作者
应该用had had吧!!因为动作发生在entered之前。我认为是...
以下是引用sunder在2003-8-17 22:04:00的发言:
2  than (those the army had) for their previous campaigns
     btw 这里用过去一般时没什么问题吧
地板
发表于 2003-8-17 22:18:00 | 只看该作者
那就...过完好一点吧...嗯...

以下是引用linlin315在2003-8-17 22:07:00的发言:
应该用had had吧!!因为动作发生在entered之前。我认为是...

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发表于 2003-8-18 11:03:00 | 只看该作者
1.
one reson is suggested by the finding that 。。。: 按说不是一个好的用法,因为是被动式。
但是E的: suggests one reason certain pesticides 。。。是一种luol嗦的说法,用suggest 就足够了,另外 in those指代不清,因为 前面还有一个populations。
if从句修饰谁该如何判断呢? 应该是就近判断,离的太远对任何修饰词来说都是错误的。

2. 省略的问题,其实最需要记住:应该是省略的一样的成份。而不要去想自认为合理的成份
。。。 than ( the army had entered other sites with!supplies )  for

3.  four times as many (Americans were killed as) would later be killed on the beaches of Mormandy during D-Day.

省略的就是要和以前的成份一样:four times as many (Americans were killed as) [Americans]  would later be killed  

see?   BB
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 楼主| 发表于 2003-8-18 12:06:00 | 只看该作者

以下是引用RMSF在2003-8-18 11:03:00的发言:
1.
one reson is suggested by the finding that 。。。: 按说不是一个好的用法,因为是被动式。
但是E的: suggests one reason certain pesticides 。。。是一种luol嗦的说法,用suggest 就足够了,

这个... suggests one reason 罗嗦,那one reason is suggested 就不罗嗦了啊?这两个如果要用罗嗦来排除的话应该要错一起错才对吗??

另外 in those指代不清,因为 前面还有一个populations。

要是指代前面的populations那它加 in干嘛呢??直接用those指代不就行了呀??我觉着它还是指代soils的????



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 楼主| 发表于 2003-8-18 12:11:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用RMSF在2003-8-18 11:03:00的发言:
2. 省略的问题,其实最需要记住:应该是省略的一样的成份。而不要去想自认为合理的成份
  。。。 than ( the army had entered other sites with!supplies )  for

嗯!!这个明白,同意。
8#
 楼主| 发表于 2003-8-18 12:16:00 | 只看该作者
以下是引用RMSF在2003-8-18 11:03:00的发言:
3.  four times as many (Americans were killed as) would later be killed on the beaches of Mormandy during D-Day.

省略的就是要和以前的成份一样:four times as many (Americans were killed as) [Americans]  would later be killed  

可是...
OG上说in C and E, those who is a wordy intrusion??那一前不都是用those来指代前面出现的复数名词的吗,这句话要是改成four times as many Americans were killed as those who would later be killed on the beaches of Mormandy during D-Day.到底应不应该对呢??
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 楼主| 发表于 2003-8-18 12:18:00 | 只看该作者

NO啊...

以下是引用RMSF在2003-8-18 11:03:00的发言:
see?   BB


10#
发表于 2003-8-18 15:11:00 | 只看该作者
这个... suggests one reason 罗嗦,那one reason is suggested 就不罗嗦了啊?这两个如果要用罗嗦来排除的话应该要错一起错才对吗??

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有主动当然好,但没有主动当然要用被动了。但是 suggest one reason 是 wordy ,这是必错的错误。  另外我想是不是需要 that 呢? 一般情况下都需要.


those :代词指代,一般从前指代,至于你说的意思明了,那不是应该考虑的,你应该考虑到象我这样的弱智的就是搞不清呢!这是严格的要求。

3. as those who would later be killed on the beaches of Mormandy during D-Day
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不可以 ,前后形式要一样的,都要是一个完整的句子,你这样形式就不完整了。

记住: 语法就是八股文,说好听点就是:严格无歧义。
SEE ,BB?
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