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OG18 738题 关于but作连词的并列问题 求助!

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发表于 2018-11-2 01:17:36 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式
Foraging at all times of the day and night, but interspersing their feeding with periods of rest that last between one and eight hours, a sperm whale could eat so much as a ton of squid a day.

(A) between one and eight hours, a sperm whale could eat so
(B) between one and eight hours, sperm whales can eat as
(C) between one to eight hours, sperm whales could eat as
(D) from one to eight hours, sperm whales could eat so
(E) from one to eight hours, a sperm whale can eat so

but作为连词连接两个并列的V-ing成分为什么中间可以用逗号隔开呢???
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沙发
发表于 2018-11-2 04:08:18 | 只看该作者
两个粗体字部分都是modifier,并列平行且都修饰a sperm whale,用逗号是可以的。推荐你看Ron关于modifier的视频。
板凳
 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-2 06:36:45 | 只看该作者
Arev_19 发表于 2018-11-2 04:08
两个粗体字部分都是modifier,并列平行且都修饰a sperm whale,用逗号是可以的。推荐你看Ron关于modifier的 ...

可我看了下RON的modifier的笔记。。并没有讲两个并列的修饰语中间除了用连词and连接还可以加逗号。。。难道是因为but和and用法不一样吗?方便告知一下是哪一个视频吗?
地板
发表于 2018-11-2 13:42:03 | 只看该作者
个人认为这里加不加逗号都可以的吧?
5#
发表于 2018-11-2 23:43:20 | 只看该作者
查查的假发 发表于 2018-11-2 06:36
可我看了下RON的modifier的笔记。。并没有讲两个并列的修饰语中间除了用连词and连接还可以加逗号。。。难 ...

1. “day and night”只是第一个modifier的一部分,这里的and没有连接并列的修饰语
2. 第一个和第二个修饰语的连接词是but
3. 如果不加逗号只用but这句话太长了,不如", but"清晰
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发表于 2018-11-2 23:44:59 | 只看该作者
视频:https://vimeo.com/34858375
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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-3 06:58:17 | 只看该作者
Arev_19 发表于 2018-11-2 23:44
视频:https://vimeo.com/34858375

啊感谢!今天翻到这个帖子https://forum.chasedream.com/for ... p;showoldetails=yes 解释了为什么可以用逗号
因为逗号实际上不一定需要省去,在前面的修饰语过长导致unreadable时可以用逗号隔开便于阅读~
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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-3 06:58:55 | 只看该作者
几许VV 发表于 2018-11-2 13:42
个人认为这里加不加逗号都可以的吧?

对的 可以参考下这个https://forum.chasedream.com/for ... p;showoldetails=yes
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发表于 2018-11-3 09:24:25 | 只看该作者
查查的假发 发表于 2018-11-3 06:58
对的 可以参考下这个https://forum.chasedream.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=791423&page=1&fid ...

谢谢楼主!我认真看你发的帖子,觉得有点疑惑。

帖子7楼说:
我仔细查了manhattan,出处应该是Chap 10 Connecting Punctuation 5th P196面。原文如下:

Do not use a comma before and to separate two verbs that have the same subject. Either eliminate the comma or add a subject to the second verb, creating a second main clause.

Wrong: Earl walked to school, AND later ate his lunch.
Right: Earl walked to school AND later ate his lunch.
Right: Earl walked to school, AND HE later ate his lunch.

曼哈顿的意思是:1.如果一个主语,两个谓语,中间用And连接,但绝不能不能用逗号隔开(上面错例);所以千行的作者看到这条,就严格执行。
是不是曼哈顿在此处并没说清楚适用范围,例如只适用于主语+两个平行动词(不包括modifier)?

但是5楼说的RON男神的解释:
often, the comma will be omitted when there are two complete clauses -- if those clauses are short enough to render the comma unnecessary.
also -- again quite often -- a comma will be included even if the structures are not complete clauses, especially if the structures are long enough to make the sentence essentially unreadable without the comma.
for instance:
i shut the windows and locked the doors --> this sentence doesn't need any additional punctuation.
i shut the windows so firmly that i would later have trouble opening them, and locked the doors using both the standard locks and the deadbolts --> these are not complete clauses, but the sentence is still written with the comma, because it's absolutely unreadable without the comma (try it yourself).

那这么看来曼哈顿那句话岂不是错的了吗?
(现在的曼哈顿里好像也没看到这个说法了)

是不是说明还是以RON男神的话为准捏?
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 楼主| 发表于 2018-11-6 01:31:15 | 只看该作者
几许VV 发表于 2018-11-3 09:24
谢谢楼主!我认真看你发的帖子,觉得有点疑惑。

帖子7楼说:

我觉得应该以Ron为主哈 曼哈顿这里应该是没说清楚
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