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[MIS]大龄IT从业申请Fall2013求定位

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发表于 2012-6-29 10:03:17 | 只看该作者
Very good questions cause they are very specific! So lets start off from the beginning. I think that with your experience and your GMAT you can probably also have a shot at getting into a better school than those you listed, although they are great programs too. If you are focusing on one year programs, and are also consider MBA programs, anyway because of your age and family reasons etc. (which I totally understand) then I would definitely add Johnson and Kellogg to your list.
http://www.johnson.cornell.edu/Academic-Programs/Full-Time-MBA/Accelerated-MBA.aspx
http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/programs/fulltimemba/mba_programs/1_year_program.aspx

And no you don't need a specific MBA in IT consulting. In general just a good solid MBA will help you get where you want to go. Of course the coursework will be less tech oriented than an MIS program, so you have decide if you are better at and more interested in the tech side of things, or you want to do the softer “people management” stuff. As for your immigrant idea and your boss’ offer, I don't think you need to mention it. All the schools know that many students apply to professional masters in order to move to the US. So you will get no advantage from mentioning it. And maybe the schools will even wonder: Well if he only wants the degree to be able to work in the US then why didn't he take his boss’ offer? And then you have to start explaining.

And actually an EMBA can be a nice compromise if you want between your boss’ offer and your move to the US. Because most EMBA programs are designed for older students such as yourself who would be working at the same time as they study, and then if you wanted to move on later, you could do so, because you would already be on American ground.

Finally, regarding your GPA. Its not the best that's true, but it doesn't “kill your application” or anything like that. Especially since it was sooo long ago and you have done sooo many things since. If you can show that you have been successful in the meanwhile, it should count less than for a candidate who is only 2 years out of college.

I hope this answer was as helpful as it was long

Jon Frank
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-29 13:35:59 | 只看该作者
Jon,
Thank you for your kind words and suggestions.


Although my current position is operations manager and I do manage a  pool of consultants, I stll engage in many hands-on work and generate substantial amount of billable hours. I would say my role is simliar to those law firm partners who need to manage a team but also need to go to courts. I feel my root is in IT consulting and don't see myself as a pure "behind-the-desk people manager" in the near future, especially if I'm going to work in th U.S.. That's the reason why I'm reluctant to choose MBA programs.


Having said that,  I do understand that attending MBA program doesn't necessarily mean I will have to become a general manager after graduation. Nor does it mean I will need to ditch my entire IT related experience. I feel that big part of the reason why I choose MIS programs over MBA ones is that I want to get a degree as easy and  soon as possible.


So my conclusion based on your answers and my line of thinking is, MBA is definately more valuable than MIS, but it surely requires more commitment and investment. The question really is, am I up for it? I guess I need to do a lot of soul searching before I can answer that question.


Your suggestions on one-year MBA and EMBA are quite valuable to me. It is clear that I should diffrentiate myself from younger crowds. Otherwise my age and experience will only be a drawback for me. And this applies to MIS programs too. The option of one-year program in Cornell is especially good  because my potential client, if I decided to take up on my boss' offer, is located in Corning/Elmira area which is 1 hour drive away from Ithaca.   The question again is , am I willing to commit to that and will I be admitted.

As for the mentioning of immigration intention and boss' offer, you are right and I shouldn't put any emphasis on them.

Last, thanks for boost my confidence on the subject of GPA
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发表于 2012-6-29 15:49:32 | 只看该作者
啰嗦一句,H1b指标2012年的用完了已经,所以要转过去工作,最早明年4月1日开始申,一切顺利的话,10月1日才可以在米国开始工作。而L1要看你的职位是否符合标准了。但是如果符合以后对于你的家人,包括移民都更方便许多。
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-6-29 15:57:02 | 只看该作者
啰嗦一句,H1b指标2012年的用完了已经,所以要转过去工作,最早明年4月1日开始申,一切顺利的话,10月1日才可以在米国开始工作。而L1要看你的职位是否符合标准了。但是如果符合以后对于你的家人,包括移民都更方便许多。
-- by 会员 feierzhou (2012/6/29 15:49:32)



谢谢,我一个月前查就发觉H1B不多了,但至少最近几年的H1B仍然是有机会申的,不想前些年第一天就fill.

L1的话,关键是L1A还是L1B的问题。还有怎么证明中国和美国公司间的关系, 其他应该都符合。
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发表于 2012-7-3 00:12:38 | 只看该作者
Jon,
Thank you for your kind words and suggestions.


Although my current position is operations manager and I do manage a  pool of consultants, I stll engage in many hands-on work and generate substantial amount of billable hours. I would say my role is simliar to those law firm partners who need to manage a team but also need to go to courts. I feel my root is in IT consulting and don't see myself as a pure "behind-the-desk people manager" in the near future, especially if I'm going to work in th U.S.. That's the reason why I'm reluctant to choose MBA programs.


Having said that,  I do understand that attending MBA program doesn't necessarily mean I will have to become a general manager after graduation. Nor does it mean I will need to ditch my entire IT related experience. I feel that big part of the reason why I choose MIS programs over MBA ones is that I want to get a degree as easy and  soon as possible.


So my conclusion based on your answers and my line of thinking is, MBA is definately more valuable than MIS, but it surely requires more commitment and investment. The question really is, am I up for it? I guess I need to do a lot of soul searching before I can answer that question.


Your suggestions on one-year MBA and EMBA are quite valuable to me. It is clear that I should diffrentiate myself from younger crowds. Otherwise my age and experience will only be a drawback for me. And this applies to MIS programs too. The option of one-year program in Cornell is especially good  because my potential client, if I decided to take up on my boss' offer, is located in Corning/Elmira area which is 1 hour drive away from Ithaca.   The question again is , am I willing to commit to that and will I be admitted.

As for the mentioning of immigration intention and boss' offer, you are right and I shouldn't put any emphasis on them.

Last, thanks for boost my confidence on the subject of GPA
-- by 会员 mikeyan23 (2012/6/29 13:35:59)



Its great to read your long and honest answer,
Now I don't want to push you towards an MBA if this is not your dream nor where your strengths lie, I just wanted to open up some more possibilities to you. If your strengths are technical, and this is what you wish, then yes, an MIS program will probably make more sense for you. And I think even in an MIS program you will have to work hard! (Even if you might be a bit more comfortable with the challenges). The thing is to think about not necessarily aiming for what others tell you is more “prestigious”. Its nonsense that an MBA is more prestigious than a good MIS. You need to simply figure out what will get you best doing what you want. i.e. How to reach YOUR goals. Now, its entirely possible, that you have goals that could be well served by EITHER an MIS OR an MBA. I’ve had such clients in the past, and if that is your case, then you can apply to a mix of appropriate programs. So for example in your case, maybe a 2 year MBA doesn't make sense because of time and commitment and anyways its not really what you want, but as you have pointed out the accelerated Johnson MBA might be perfect, in which case you could apply to it simultaneously as you apply to MIS programs.

Lots of lovely options here!



Jon Frank
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发表于 2012-7-14 15:34:37 | 只看该作者
牛人真多
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发表于 2012-8-4 00:49:29 | 只看该作者
楼主直接走工作途径吧,多轻松啊,GT成绩就当证明你的英语能力了,也不浪费啊
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-10-29 14:12:46 | 只看该作者
选校结果:
Kellogg one-year MBA - 要busiess related ungraduate degree,没投
Cornell Johnson one-year MBA - 要advanced (master) degree,  没投
Emory Goizueta one-year MBA - 没赶上10月5日R1, 考虑是否投R2中
USC IBEAR one-year MBA - 投了,等消息中
Rochester Simon one-year MBA - 投了,本周面试
University of Florida one-year MBA - 投了,本周面试
Pepperdine Univsity 15-moth MBA - 投了,上周已面, adcom称全奖概率巨大

以下三个是MIS 的Master, 都投了但现在更倾向MBA了,上面的MBA任何一个给AD我会决定放弃MIS了
CMU Heinz MSIM one-year track
Syracuse雪城 MISM executive track (one year)
U of Maryland-College Park MSB IS (one year)

目前比较伤脑经的是, Pepperdine有着太多的PROS, location好, 给全奖, 人接触过很nice。但也与很大一个CONS就是排名偏低,如果这个排名是因为就业数据,我也不care了, 但如果是因为师资的问题,我就有点担心了。仍然在犹豫是否要投一下Emory,毕竟Emory的排名要高的多,奖也有不少机会。
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