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OG 12th: 107th 【OG是没有错滴】

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 楼主| 发表于 2012-5-14 08:17:00 | 只看该作者
昨天在曼哈顿上看到Ron的解释,他也说A答案严格意义上来说是不对的。这个解释,很好的解答了我的疑问。发上来给有需要的童鞋们。

重点在于"X + 修饰成分Y,which 引导的modifer"会不会有歧义。如果在没有歧义的情况下,which是可以修饰X的。

根据曼哈顿语法,我理解了另一个含义:X,修饰成分Y,which 引导的modifer。有逗号时,which就无论如何修饰不到X了。一定错。



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发表于 2012-5-21 23:03:14 | 只看该作者
:X,修饰成分Y,which 引导的modifer。有逗号时,which就无论如何修饰不到X了。一定错。
如果修饰成分Y前后没有逗号,那么which就可以指代X?
如果有逗号,一定错?


昨天在曼哈顿上看到Ron的解释,他也说A答案严格意义上来说是不对的。这个解释,很好的解答了我的疑问。发上来给有需要的童鞋们。

重点在于"X + 修饰成分Y,which 引导的modifer"会不会有歧义。如果在没有歧义的情况下,which是可以修饰X的。

根据曼哈顿语法,我理解了另一个含义:X,修饰成分Y,which 引导的modifer。有逗号时,which就无论如何修饰不到X了。一定错。



http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/og-sc-105-t1277.html
-- by 会员 peill (2012/5/14 8:17:00)

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发表于 2012-5-26 09:59:13 | 只看该作者
a,b,c,d 选项都有“analyze the chemical elements in almost any substance without destroying it”
想请问一下nn,严格来讲是不是it应该指代elements,但是这道题实际上指代的是substance?
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发表于 2012-7-14 16:42:25 | 只看该作者
我知道OG就是圣经。但是怎么看还是觉得107题,D选项的解释有问题。
(修改:C选项应该 更说明问题,我把C选项也加上)

107. Orginally developed for detecting air polutants, a technique called proton-induced X-ray emission, which can quickly analyze the chemical elements in almost any substance without destroying it, is finding uses in medecine, archaeology , and criminology.

A.Orginally developed fordetecting air polutants, a technique called proton-induced X-rayemission, which can quickly analyze the chemical elements in almost any substance without destroying it,

C.A technique originally developed for detecting air pollutants, called proton-induced X-ray emission, which can  quickly analyze the chemical elements in almost any substanceand without destroying it.

D. A technique originally developed for detecting air pollutants, called proton-induced X-ray emission, which has the ability to analyze the chemical elements in almost any substance quickly and without destroying it.

问题:
首先A是正确答案。
在对D的解释中,说道which错误的修饰了emission.如果是这样的话,那A中也一样有which 错误修饰emission的问题啊。OG是不是错了?!

A\D的解释分别如下:

A.Correct. The modifiers are all correctly  placed and punctuated; the meaning is clear.
C. Called proton-induced X-ray emission should be placed next to a technique and should not be set off by commas;relative clause introduced by which incorrectly and illogically modifies emmision
D.Called proton-induced X-ray emission should be placed next to a technique and should not be set off by commas;relative clause introduced by which incorrectly and illogically modifies emmision;has the ability to is wordy.
-- by 会员 peill (2012/5/5 12:10:01)



首先OG的答案是没有错的
A.Orginally developed fordetecting air polutants, a technique called proton-induced X-rayemission, which can quickly analyze the chemical elements in almost any substance without destroying it,
首先看A的结构,是modifier+subject(technique)+modifier(which)的结构,a tech是subject,called  proton-induced X-ray emission
是用来修饰a tech的,翻译过来其实等于this tech= proton-induced X-ray,所以这两个东西是一样的所以which指代没有歧义。 C.A technique originally developed for detecting air pollutants, called proton-induced X-ray emission, which can  quickly analyze the chemical elements in almost any substanceand without destroying it.
再来看C,我觉得最重要的错误不在于which,而是在于called这个modifier,任何“逗号+-ed”的成分都是修饰离-ed成分最近的noun,所以这里called实际在修饰air pollutants,这是一个很严重的逻辑错误,因为called本身要指的是a tech。
那么此时离which可以最近修饰的noun便是这个emission,而emission存在的这个modifier因为有called的存在使它修饰的不再是a tech,而是pollutants,which在这里的指代就根本不对了
这就是AC的本质区别
或者从句子的成分上看
A选项是modifier+subect+modifier的机构,修饰成分分散在subject的两遍,都在修饰subject,不会引起歧义
而C则是subject+modifier+modifier,即使两个modifier都想修饰subject,也会存在第二个Modifier修饰第一个modifier的歧义,所以C不如A好
提供一个秒杀这道题的方法:看句子结构
A  modifier+subject+modifier
B  modifier+modifier+subject
C subject+modifier+modifier
D subject+modifier+modifier

E错误太明显不说了
从句子的结构上来看,显然A是最不会引起歧义的两个modifier都在修饰subject,而B,C,D都有第二个Modifier修饰第一个modifier的嫌疑
根据Manhattan语法,avoid long sequences of modifiers that modify the same noun.Putting two long modifiers in a row before(如B ) or after a moun(如C,D)can lead to awkward .(此规律恒成立)
-- by 会员 llssyy93 (2012/5/5 22:20:08)



这个规律虽然好用, 但不是恒成立. 例如OG 12 的105题
105. Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully
coordinating them with her narratives, capitalized on
her keen observation and love of the natural world.
(A) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully
coordinating them with her narratives,
(B) In her book illustrations, carefully coordinating
them with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(C) In her book illustrations, which she carefully
coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix Potter
(D) Carefully coordinated with her narratives, Beatrix
Potter, in her book illustrations
(E) Beatrix Potter, in her book illustrations, carefully
coordinated them with her narratives and

正确答案是C, 属于modifier+modifier+subject
符合modifier+subject+modifier 的D 倒是有明显的逻辑错误
15#
发表于 2012-7-14 20:25:26 | 只看该作者
这是一个谁修饰谁的问题,所以其实解释都很好,只是最后得出的结论太过绝对。

Q107 C、D与A的which修饰对象不同的根本原因,是其前方a technique called...这个结构的不同而导致的。

A的which前面是 a technique called blah. blah. 这是一个典型的【名词+后置定语】的结构,是可以把这个结构分出主次关系的,也就是说这个结构中【名词】是整个结构的中心词的。在这种情况下,后面的定语从句引导词which存在跳跃修饰的语法可能,所以which可以跳跃修饰到technique而无歧义。


而C、D的which前面仅仅单单是一个called proton-induced X-ray emission,这不是一个完整的结构,而且并没有核心词、修饰词的区分一说。所以,which在它后面只能修饰前面的紧邻名词,也就修饰了emission。


但,
A  modifier+subject+modifier
B  modifier+modifier+subject
C subject+modifier+modifier
D subject+modifier+modifier

这个方法就太绝对了,还是要根据句义来具体题目具体分析。
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