求助，非常迷茫不知道未来路该怎么走

huangluo45 · 发表于 2016-10-10 11:13:33

先说下我的情况吧。我是男生，今年24岁，本科在法国第戎商学院 esc dijon（2年）和英国牛津布鲁克斯大学（1年） oxford brookes的双文凭项目毕业，专业是international business and marketing. 毕业后听从父亲，为了移民，读了加拿大渥太华大学的硕士，master in e-business. 选择毕业了，在加拿大做着一份不温不火的工作，工资不高就够养活自己，公司还行但是没什么发展空间（我做的是 marketing and operation assistant, 就是平常用ai设计海报，然后支持下marketing events).

大概从3个月前，我突然萌生了读phd的想法。我觉得原因如下：第一我不喜欢现在的工作，我想回到学校的生活。第二我很想当大学老师，这是我的梦想工作。第三我想回到欧洲，回到法国或者英国。我不太想留在加拿大，并不是因为这边不好，只是我更喜欢欧洲。但是我爸说了花了那么多钱读书就是让你移民，你这样又跑到别的国家去不都浪费了吗？我顺利的话年底就可以申请加拿大安大略的省提名了，1年半之后就可以拿到绿卡了。可是我渐渐觉得拿到绿卡又怎么样呢？我不喜欢在加拿大呆一辈子啊。所以我爸的意思是读博士他支持，但是在加拿大读。

我看了看加拿大的学校，queens 或 UBC 我不喜欢那两个地方，剩下的也就麦吉尔大学和卡尔加里大学了。
法国的话，选择有hec paris，哥诺布尔商学院。英国的话想报伦敦城市大学，伯明翰或曼切斯特大学。

我的在校成绩是80%左右。我法语中等水平，英语雅思8分，gmat准备下月考，没什么时间准备加上数字底子很烂应该会是650左右。我必须要有tuition wavier 和living stipend，因为我爸不会再付钱给我读书了。我自己也没有存款。

说了那么多，我就想问下大家， 1. 如果你是我，你会作何选择？ 2. 英法两国phd in marketing 还没有什么比较好的学校我是没有考虑到的？ 3. 大部分英国学校感觉都不需要gmat成绩（官网上都没提到）？加拿大和法国的phd program 在他们admission网站上都是拍明确了只要录取就有全奖，英国是不是奖学金很少啊？我看网站上说了都很不情愿。

谢谢啦。

qchwy22 · 发表于 2016-12-7 13:57:10

欧洲和你离开的时候可能不太一样了
24岁还年轻拿了国籍再读博也不迟身份这东西等你30岁的时候就知道有用了。。。

acct11 · 发表于 2016-12-7 14:09:42

怎么个有用法

l66998063 · 发表于 2016-12-7 17:41:18

加拿大的商科phd 能在世界上有拿的出手的研究只有ut 和ubc。 ubc很强。接下来就是queen western york之列的之类学校对国际学生都有限额，比较难。但是ut ubc对gmat和gpa要求很高。相比之下欧洲的商科phd会容易一些。

cheesechan · 发表于 2016-12-7 18:32:23

I will suggest giving this plan up.

1. You don't have a good enough background for it. Degree from 3rd-tier university + a soft business master, i.e. long way to go.
Academics research are academics, and thus require a more academic background, and they are mostly conducted in the good universities only.

2. Long way to go is not a problem itself, but this means you need more preparation.
Preparation doesn't mean GMAT here - that is something too basic to talk about.
You need a solid degree for business research, e.g. things like this:
http://www.sauder.ubc.ca/Programs/MSc_in_Business_Administration/Program_Overview_and_Specializations
instead of those whatever international management / business stuffs.

Of course you are also far from getting admission from this UBC MSc Business Admin. This is just an example what preparation of business PhD means. Check if there're any in some lower school (possibly dont exist cause research is something somehow only for top/good universities)

3. In order to do this, you need $$ and time. You dont have any.
Time: you need to be in Canada, with a job, for the way toward residence permit (you can do that after getting that)
$$: well, it is quite unlikely that you will get a living stipend and tuition waiver, simply because your profile is not competitive for a research one.

Sometimes, one has to be realistic while planning.

cheesechan · 发表于 2016-12-7 19:01:46

acct11 发表于 2016-12-7 14:09
怎么个有用法

Whether it is useful or not, you should work on it now as this is your dad expectation.

Of course, fulfilling parents' expectation is far from being a norm nowadays, but this apply to your case - after you decide to take your dad's sponsorship on tuition for your master degree.

Indeed the simplest solution of "I don't like my current job" is: just go to find a new one.

沁雪 · 发表于 2016-12-7 19:06:02

楼上说的非常中肯，楼主可以作为参考。

楼主的背景不够有竞争力，在英法两国即使能够读博基本也只能在二三流的高校读，毕业后想当老师，想留在学术界也会比较难。

另外欧洲确实也有比较好的研究型硕士项目，也不用花多少钱，但同样，你目前的背景可能不容易申请到，即便申请到，硕+博又是一条长路

加拿大的绿卡我不了解，拿到以后是必须要长期居住在加拿大么？假如不是，那先拿到绿卡再去欧洲不是稳妥很多吗？

以上都是很现实的考量，但另一方面，楼主才24哎！假如真的有自己想做的事情，当然要去做了才不枉此生啊。

所以我觉得最重要的是你要考虑好你究竟有多想读博，然后是多想回欧洲。其实以你的教育背景，我怀疑你未必对research in marketing有多少了解。还是先多了解一下商科研究意味着什么吧，有机会可以联系加拿大学校的老师看看有没有给他们做RA的机会

cheesechan · 发表于 2016-12-7 20:02:21

沁雪发表于 2016-12-7 19:06
楼上说的非常中肯，楼主可以作为参考。

楼主的背景不够有竞争力，在英法两国即使能够读博基本也只能在二三 ...

楓葉咭是有residence requirement的, 要拿了passport才算完.
(As a permanent resident, you may travel outside Canada after you arrive. However, you must meet certain residency obligations to maintain your status as a permanent resident. To meet these residency obligations, you must be physically present in Canada for at least 730 days (2 years) in every 5-year period.)

agree with you on "其实以你的教育背景，我怀疑你未必对research in marketing有多少了解"...business research is not something can be easily imagined by a normal business student indeed.
and i dont think OP stand a reasonable chances for a RA at all. Fighting for a RA is usually more difficult than get admission to a master since $$$.
(getting a RA is as difficult as getting a funded MPhil/MRes)

and....indeed given OP's profile, it is next to impossible to get PhD admission from 2nd tier university in UK / France.
PhD admission is competitive. In general, bachelor/master student of 1st tier go to 1st or 2nd tier one, and those from 2nd go to 2nd/3rd tier one.
One need a really very excellent grade, and thus supporting from top faculty (and luck) to go upper.

Let me be straight: I don't think OP has the ability to do research, 99% likely academically not smart enough.
Since if 本身有這個學術水平的話, 一早就不會是去 ESC Dijon, Oxford Brookes, Ottawa了..........

求助，非常迷茫不知道未来路该怎么走

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