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作者: mathfin9    时间: 2004-8-24 14:15
标题: GWD 11-32讨论(前面总结没有)

Q32:


Since 1975 so many people have been moving to Utah such that Mormons who were once 75 percent of the population are now only accounting for half of it.



A.      so many people have been moving to Utah such that Mormons who were once 75 percent of the population are now only accounting for half of it


B.       many people have been moving to Utah, so Mormons once 75 percent of the population are now accounting for only half


C.       that many people have been moving to Utah, such that the Mormons that were once 75 percent of the population are now accounting for only half of it


D.      many people have been moving to Utah such that the Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now only account for half


E.       so many people have been moving to Utah that the Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now account for only half



有前人给答案是E,


B为什么错,是认为accounting for进行时态不好


作者: leeon    时间: 2004-8-25 16:33

accounting for进行时态不好,so...that结构被破坏;

原文说自1975年以来,如此多的人不断的迁往 Utah 以至the Mormons,曾经占(Utah)总人口的75%,现在只占50%。


作者: Penggary    时间: 2004-10-10 18:51
B还有一个错误:Since... so重复。
作者: 苏慕    时间: 2004-10-19 17:41
以下是引用Penggary在2004-10-10 18:51:00的发言:
B还有一个错误:Since... so重复。

这里since   .. . so不是一个意思

b项改变了原文的意思


作者: 爱维的天    时间: 2004-12-20 12:34

那﹙D﹚呢?

偶觉得﹙D﹚也不错啊!


作者: cdoublesok    时间: 2005-1-4 17:09

第一次发言,请NN指点

因为原句为倒装代表语气强烈,所以一般不能修改,所以AE优选

A。SO.....Such that 有问题   who were once 75 percent of the population 里的were使用错误

   are now only accounting没必要用现在进行时,用一般现在时就可以了

   only 位置错误,应该放到half前面

D。 such that不合适,还有only的位置


作者: 三脚猫    时间: 2005-1-4 22:30

B为什么错,是认为accounting for进行时态不好

B.       many people have been moving to Utah, so Mormons once 75 percent of the population are now accounting for only half

我认为在once前和population后还应加逗号,请指正。


作者: skyalan    时间: 2005-1-13 22:38
这个题值得讨论,我也拿不定主意,欢迎NN们来
作者: 三脚猫    时间: 2005-1-15 17:24
以下是引用mathfin9在2004-8-24 14:15:00的发言:

Q32:再看这道题又有了新的看法



Since 1975 so many people have been moving to Utah such that Mormons who were once 75 percent of the population are now only accounting for half of it.(原题意:自从1975年如此多的人移往......以至于Mormons的人口.......)






A.      so many people have been moving to Utah such that Mormons who were once 75 percent of the population are now only accounting for half of it



B.       many people have been moving to Utah, so Mormons once 75 percent of the population are now accounting for only half  改变了原题意应是主要错误



C.       that many people have been moving to Utah, such that the Mormons that were once 75 percent of the population are now accounting for only half of it



D.      many people have been moving to Utah such that the Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now only account for half



E.       so many people have been moving to Utah that the Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now account for only half


因此只有E是对的


有前人给答案是E,


B为什么错,是认为accounting for进行时态不好



作者: wj007    时间: 2005-2-13 13:58

B is wrong because of " so Mormons (who are) once 75 percent of the population ..." You can NOT say Mormons ARE 75%. Should be "Mormons represent 75%" . Same as an example in OG, "... process is ..." is wrong while "... process refers to ..." is right.


作者: violetyang83    时间: 2005-5-27 17:28
only 位置改变难道没有改变原句意思??
作者: ethyl    时间: 2005-5-30 09:40

only 位置改变难道没有改变原句意思??


有滴有滴


这句话里面很明显only修饰half比较达意


D选项such that在OG里确实没有so…that优先


所以说该不改变原意不是那么绝对,逻辑意思优先


作者: rosebudxiaojie    时间: 2005-9-17 13:51
以下是引用ethyl在2005-5-30 9:40:00的发言:


有滴有滴


这句话里面很明显only修饰half比较达意


D选项such that在OG里确实没有so…that优先


所以说该不改变原意不是那么绝对,逻辑意思优先


那就因为sucn that 没有so....that优先就把D排除了? such that本身的用法并没有错呀


作者: z520m    时间: 2005-9-17 17:36
在og中都是用so that,不用such that,这是家规!再说原句用了倒装,D改变了句子的重心,句子的重心在so many people,可 D变成了such that后的mormons了。
作者: Hyi_unicent    时间: 2006-2-5 14:56
以下是引用三脚猫在2005-1-4 22:30:00的发言:

B为什么错,是认为accounting for进行时态不好


B.       many people have been moving to Utah, so Mormons once 75 percent of the population are now accounting for only half


我认为在once前和population后还应加逗号,请指正。


mormons once 75 percent of the population:可理解为75%的人口. 最好用定语从句以消除歧义


作者: wangjianxiu    时间: 2006-9-29 20:41

 怎么不讨论了还没懂呢


作者: yaomao    时间: 2006-10-6 18:40

    
  1. so many people have been moving to Utah
                    such that Mormons who were once 75 percent of the population are
         now only accounting for
         half of it
  2. many people have
         been moving to Utah,
         so Mormons once 75
         percent of the population
    are now accounting for only half
  3. that many people have been moving to Utah, such that the Mormons that were once 75 percent of
         the population are now accounting
         for
    only half of it
  4. many people have
         been moving to Utah
                    such that the
         Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now only
         account for half
  5. so many people
         have been moving to Utah
         that the Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now
         account for only half


还有就是only的位置有变化
作者: tianshangke    时间: 2006-10-16 00:07

so many people have been moving to Utah
            that the Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now account for only half

E)中的that起什么作用?换为and不是更好?


作者: supermary    时间: 2007-1-24 00:51
so...that句型不要变...
A。 so...such that...错误句型 unidiomatic;
B。用so表示不如so that能够强调原因,Mormons once 75 pct of the population,如果要用必须写为Mormons, once 75 pct of the population, account for 一般不用现在进行式,account for or not, 没有“组成”动作还需要进行的;
C. that, such that... 句型错误;
D. such that句型错误。

所以选E.So...that句型。


作者: dreamchaserdan    时间: 2007-1-26 23:20

呵呵,这道题哪里倒装了,有点人云亦云哦。。。


作者: wingkim    时间: 2007-6-24 23:30

为何没人说那个很明显的it???


作者: fortitude    时间: 2007-10-31 08:26

good


作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-5-4 11:34

还是不明白。A为什么错?是我们中国人理解错了,还是确实语法错了?

so在A中只是做副词修饰many,并不是so that结构。

such that大家说不好,在OG中找不到一例说such that不好的例子。such在这里指代so many people have been moving to Utah 这个情况。half在E中单独使用绝对不正确,正确的形式应该是half of...或者 a half.

我不确定were是不是有问题,导致两个概念不对等?

从half的问题上就只剩下A,C可选,C结构明显不对,只剩A了。

还请NN指点一二。


作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-5-4 12:02

虽然没有在verbal部分找到such that的官方例子,但是数学中倒是不少:

If p is the smallest positive integer such that (p^3)/3920 is also an integer, what is the sum

if w,x,y and z are integers such that w/x and y/z are integers, is w/x+y/z odd?

The positive integers x, y and z are such that x is a factor of y and y is a factor of z. Is z even?

Does the integer k have a factor p such that 1<p<k?

这里的such都是指代前面的情况。


作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-5-4 22:10

补贴一下原题:

Q32:

Since 1975 so many people have been moving to Utah such that Mormons who were once 75 percent of the population are now only accounting for half of it.

A. so many people have been moving to Utah such that Mormons who were once 75 percent of the population are now only accounting for half of it

B. many people have been moving to Utah, so Mormons once 75 percent of the population are now accounting for only half

C. that many people have been moving to Utah, such that the Mormons that were once 75 percent of the population are now accounting for only half of it

D. many people have been moving to Utah such that the Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now only account for half

E. so many people have been moving to Utah that the Mormons, who once represented 75 percent of the population, now account for only half


[此贴子已经被作者于2008-5-7 3:59:20编辑过]

作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-5-5 22:29
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作者: laipiyu    时间: 2008-5-7 03:58

版主~~~~~~~~NN~~~~~~~~


作者: zhaxi8313    时间: 2008-9-9 08:59
我选的也是D,这里大家讨论的排除D的理由就是such that的用法,但是我在论坛上看道过一道题是as such,这里的such指代的是前面出现的句子, 那么这里的such that 可不可以也这样用呢? 如果可以,那么原文副词only的位置在D中也保留了,更好了

作者: yinan    时间: 2008-10-10 16:05

顶,such that 为什么补能用累


作者: jonathan1987    时间: 2008-11-2 21:57

b中since和so 都是prep.

这样会有问题


作者: 坦克指挥官    时间: 2009-5-3 10:23

是不是说such that和so that使用上没什么区别 由于only的位置E表达更清晰 所以排除D了


作者: xxxyyyzzz1    时间: 2009-5-5 14:20
还是不明白,请版主指教
感觉so...that...结构是有的,但是E中的who,前面有逗号,是非限定修饰,请问可以用who非限定修饰吗?而且who在这里指代了地点,不是人,这也是成立的吗?

作者: rabits5218    时间: 2009-8-29 01:35

像這種題目,有沒有最後的it 有何差別呢?


作者: sherry树丛    时间: 2009-11-9 23:31
同问?是不是因为it 指代population,而原文表示的应该为 75 percent of the population的一半,所以不符合原文逻辑。
open to discuss
作者: zanyingsan    时间: 2009-12-9 23:24
还是不明白,请版主指教
感觉so...that...结构是有的,但是E中的who,前面有逗号,是非限定修饰,请问可以用who非限定修饰吗?而且who在这里指代了地点,不是人,这也是成立的吗?
-- by 会员 xxxyyyzzz1 (2009/5/5 14:20:00)


不是斑竹。。。。who这里指代的是人,摩门教徒,是人。who是可以引导非限制性定语从句的,我印象里就which不可以。
作者: mars0624    时间: 2010-8-3 07:32
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作者: karma3001    时间: 2011-4-16 16:20
一个强调语调的句子改成因果了




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