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作者: sunshining    时间: 2004-7-13 17:48
标题: 请问og200,多谢

200。Certain pesticides can become ineffective if used
repeatedly in the same place: one reason is suggested by the finding that there are much larger populations
of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in soils that are
free of such chemicals.
(A) Certain pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place; one reason is
suggested by the finding that there are much larger populations of pesticide-degrading microbes in
soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in soils that are free of such chemicals(E) The finding of much larger populations of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils with a relatively long
history of pesticide use than in those that are free of such chemicals suggests one reason certain
pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place.


答案A,想问E为什么不对?


ETS解释是;choice E, The
finding of much larger populations .. . than in those that
is an improperly constructed comparison.不太明白,这不是也表示在用pesticide的土壤中比不用pesticide的土壤中发现更多microbe吗?


谢谢



作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-7-13 20:40
这个结构会有歧义:the finding of larger populations in soils A than (the finding/populations) in soils B.
作者: sunshining    时间: 2004-7-14 01:40
谢谢斑竹,看来逻辑意思还是很重要,忽略了这层歧义
作者: hanson_luo    时间: 2004-7-17 20:32
我的问题是为什么A:than in soils that are free of such chemicals中没有补出those?不补出than后面的主语不会造成前面的much larger populations和后面的in soils比较,这不是不可比的吗?到底在more than/as as结构中,什么情况下可以后面的主语可以不补出呢?
作者: sunshining    时间: 2004-7-18 10:56
A选项的比较很平行,比较的是。。。in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in soils that are free of such chemicals
作者: r1418    时间: 2004-10-10 10:31

而且我觉得E的说法好象主语部分特别的长

ETS应该不太喜欢这种结构吧

个人意见


作者: calista5133    时间: 2004-10-10 11:33

e is wrong ,for we can complete the whole sentense like this

the finding of much larger populations of pesticide-degrading in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than (that )(finding of much larger populations of pesticide-degrading )in those(soils)that are free of such chemicals suggests one reason (that) certain  pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place.

here the sentense omits two that,especially the first that follow than that can not be omitted,so the og says e is an improperly constructed compararison.of course we need the second that to complete the whole sentense.


作者: liyibai002    时间: 2007-12-28 12:35
以下是引用r1418在2004-10-10 10:31:00的发言:

而且我觉得E的说法好象主语部分特别的长
ETS应该不太喜欢这种结构吧
个人意见

I agree on this point!


作者: ppjelly    时间: 2008-4-16 23:46
我本来也是这么排除D\E的,不过看了OG的解释说比较结构出了问题。又仔细查了前辈们对此的解释,可是没有看到很让我明白的。个人觉得,E的错误不在于省略,在于比较结构就不能像E的这种句式,什么“The finding of much larger...than...",E的结构根本没法比较。不知道对不对,请NN指教。
以下是引用liyibai002在2007-12-28 12:35:00的发言:

I agree on this point!


作者: rorarora    时间: 2008-4-22 17:51

The finding that there are much larger populations of pesticide-degrading in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in soils that are free of such chemicals suggests one reason that certain pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place.

如果这么改一下,句子就是正确的了。可是结构不好,主语太长。

the finding of,在OG里,是无法表达finding地丰富含义的。所以OG的最佳答案,把finding的结果放在句首,再用: one reason is suggested by the finding that 来表示finding的内容。

相当于:...: it is suggested by.....


作者: x_vampire    时间: 2008-7-31 11:20
E有个最大的问题就是:修饰the finding 的 of 后面的成分太多。of 修饰名词只能是简单,否则的要用从句
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作者: ruru8ruru8    时间: 2008-8-5 10:21

The finding of much larger populations of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in those that are free of such chemicals suggests one reason
                that
certain pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place.

E选项此处that不能省略


作者: aeoluseros    时间: 2008-8-23 05:28
以下是引用rorarora在2008-4-22 17:51:00的发言:

The finding that there are much larger populations of pesticide-degrading microbes in soils with a relatively long history of pesticide use than in soils that are free of such chemicals suggests one reason that certain pesticides can become ineffective if used repeatedly in the same place.

如果这么改一下,句子就是正确的了。可是结构不好,主语太长。

the finding of,在OG里,是无法表达finding地丰富含义的。所以OG的最佳答案,把finding的结果放在句首,再用: one reason is suggested by the finding that 来表示finding的内容。

the finding of,在OG里,是无法表达finding地丰富含义的。所以OG的最佳答案,把finding的结果放在句首,再用: one reason is suggested by the finding that 来表示finding的内容。

the finding of,在OG里,是无法表达finding地丰富含义的。所以OG的最佳答案,把finding的结果放在句首,再用: one reason is suggested by the finding that 来表示finding的内容。

相当于:...: it is suggested by.....

相当于:...: it is suggested by.....

相当于:...: it is suggested by.....

rorarora经过你改正后的句子对是对了,但是不用those要用soils呢?

我有一个看法:

比较的相同点是populations,那就不可能会产生指代populations的歧义,而会产生指代microbes的歧义。

因为of microbes和in those理论上,不考虑逻辑时,都是介词短语是可以并列的。

这个说法对吗?


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作者: rorarora    时间: 2008-8-23 08:37

今天重看,我基本上不会再考虑这句话了。

首先这道题的finding of...基本上可以认为是错的,这个你没问题;

另外, of microbes 我想不会被误认为跟in those 并列,因为in soils 和in those已经很明确是对应的了。如果没有后面这个in,那一定是有歧义的。

介词短语的对应,在这种情况下,一定是主介词对应的。






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