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作者: cheeseberg    时间: 2004-6-27 05:56
标题: gwd 1-20

I am really wondering why nobody asks about this problem:


Q20:


Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.




  • took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them

  • took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it

  • took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete

  • 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete

  • to complete them too 700,000 artisans more than 36 years

    • The answer is B instead of C, but it is obvious that the correct form is " XXX took somebody  some time to complete", rather than ".... to complete it". I don't know why there should be an "it" here.



    This is an abvious point to me, so it really bewilderd me when I searched all WGD related topics and found none about this one.  Am I wrong

    作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-6-27 09:02
    Your are not wrong. I am standing firmly with you, or I am glad to find that you are standing firmly with me. Actually, the answer must be C.
    作者: cheeseberg    时间: 2004-6-27 09:59

    good to hear your opinion,tianwan! People seem to have a lot of discrepancies  in GWD Zhenti's. Most of those questions are against the GMAT principles I have learned from OG and LZM. This is really frustrating. WHat do you think of GWD? I tried only one test. I am wondering whether I should continue.

    作者: tianwan    时间: 2004-6-27 10:24

    I don't think GWD is a must-be. However, if you have the chance to do it and discuss it, why not do it as an auxilary means to broaden your vision? Though the key is not accurate, lack of precise answer may force you to think more deeply. An obvious drawback is the huge time-consumption. So, it is up to you to find the optimal point,  considering your resource of time.  

    Remarks expected.....

    作者: rhod    时间: 2004-6-30 23:11

    I stand firmly with you guys. See the following example from Longman:

    The building took two years to complete.

    作者: caterpillar    时间: 2004-7-10 09:45
    支持C。
    作者: cocoabean    时间: 2004-7-10 11:58

    但是原句有them, 所以尽量保留原句的代词,adj,adv等, 所以保留them改为it,



    而且感觉作者在这里想强调artisans 完成了army, 因为complete 离真正的宾语army实在是太远了, 作者想保持意思上的连贯



    不知道这样理解行不行, 请NN指教!


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    作者: gloryy    时间: 2004-7-31 04:51

    the main question in Q20 is that take sb. sometime to do someting.

    作者: ricky663    时间: 2004-8-30 13:19

    c

    it应该省略。

    作者: yiyi1219    时间: 2004-9-27 01:50
    这套题目答案是C，GWD的模考32套题里面有这道题目，答案就是C
    作者: asicschu    时间: 2004-11-1 16:14
    應該要把it省略, 所以選C囉!!
    作者: Levy    时间: 2004-11-8 15:00
    以下是引用yiyi1219在2004-9-27 1:50:00的发言：
    这套题目答案是C，GWD的模考32套题里面有这道题目，答案就是C


    hi, there,


    GWD 32? what's that? Could you give me some clues? or post that question anyway. thanks lot


    作者: yoyonline    时间: 2004-12-25 14:26

    不理解这个句子的结构和意思， 哪位能帮忙翻译一下吗？十分感谢！

    作者: tuzq    时间: 2005-2-12 21:50

    要是选B不选C,就没天理了。

    难道说：The cake took me 1 hour to complete it? 那我倒要问it指什么了。

    虽然是及物动词，也不一定要加it呀。比如：His voice is too low to hear. 难道要说His voice is too low to hear it?

    作者: xiao_zhutou    时间: 2005-2-13 05:54

    偶支持C

    作者: whoami2    时间: 2005-2-20 13:00

    哈哈，猪头小妹，刚回完你写的一个帖子，在这里又碰见你了。

    我也支持你，选 C！！！

    作者: channing76    时间: 2005-3-19 16:22

    LZM 的书P97叶说明了不定式做逻辑宾语的情况：

    1。不定式的动词是及物的，后不能接宾语。I lent him a book to read.

    2。不定式的动词是不及物的，后面需用介词，不加宾语。

    can you find us some records to listen to?

    这样看来，complete是及物动词，我认为C正确。

    作者: ypiggy    时间: 2005-7-26 21:07
    以下是引用cheeseberg在2004-6-27 5:56:00的发言：

    I am really wondering why nobody asks about this problem:


    Q20:


    Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them.







    1. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete them

    2. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it

    3. took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete

    4. 700,000 artisans took more than 36 years to complete

    5. to complete them too 700,000 artisans more than 36 years

    The answer is B instead of C, but it is obvious that the correct form is " XXX took somebody  some time to complete", rather than ".... to complete it". I don't know why there should be an "it" here.



    今天自己复习这题，从Google上搜到如下文章


    http://www.operapaedia.org/Opera.aspx?article=1170&id=4015


    Like the Egyptian pharaohs, Shih Huangdi started to build his tomb the moment he became king and some 700,000 conscripts worked for 36 years to complete it.


    但是题目中改变了写法，稍不一样。

    作者: aprilar    时间: 2005-8-20 17:58

    哈，我也选C

    作者: sweetstar    时间: 2005-9-12 21:08

    Up.哪位NN来看一下，是不是应该选C.

    作者: vler    时间: 2005-9-29 22:33

    今天自己复习这题，从Google上搜到如下文章


    http://www.operapaedia.org/Opera.aspx?article=1170&id=4015


    Like the Egyptian pharaohs, Shih Huangdi started to build his tomb the moment he became king and some 700,000 conscripts worked for 36 years to complete it.


    但是题目中改变了写法，稍不一样。


    这根题目中还是有些差别的吧，毕竟这个不是sth take sb some time to do的形式

    作者: violetleaf    时间: 2005-10-8 10:44

    支持C,应该省略


    作者: shandonggarlic    时间: 2005-11-2 06:22

    支持7楼的看法！离被修饰成分太远了，有必要明确一下。

    作者: tobytao    时间: 2005-11-6 13:52

    支持C，不用it。


    LDOCE地complete中有这样的例句：


    The building took two years to complete.


    呵呵，难道GMAT语法与此有出入？



    作者: zhoujian    时间: 2005-11-30 17:17

    支持C

    作者: nirvana0211    时间: 2005-12-19 02:24

    看这道OG:


    234. The physical structure of the human eye enables it to sense light of wavelengths up to 0.0005 millimeters; infrared radiation, however, is invisible because its wavelength—0.1 millimeters—is too long to be registered by the eye.


    (A) infrared radiation, however, is invisible because its wavelength—0.1 millimeters—is too long to be registered by the eye


    (B) however, the wavelength of infrared radiation—0.1 millimeters—is too long to be registered by the eye making it invisible


    (C) infrared radiation, however, is invisible because its wavelength—0.1 millimeters—is too long for the eye to register it


    (D) however, because the wavelength of infrared radiation is 0.1 millimeters, it is too long for the eye to register and thus invisible


    (E) however, infrared radiation has a wavelength of 0.1 millimeters that is too long for the eye to register, thus making it invisible


    Choice A, the best answer, is clear, idiomatic, and grammatically correct. In B, the misplaced participial phrase making it invisible modifies eye rather than wavelength, thus producing a confusing statement that distorts the meaning. In C, D, and E the use of the second it is so imprecise as to be confusing. Furthermore, in D, and thus invisible incorrectly modifies wavelength rather than infrared radiation. Choice E produces an illogical statement by using a restrictive clause introduced by that where a comma followed by the nonrestrictive “which” is required: a wavelength of 0.1 millimeters that is too long nonsensically suggests that not all wavelengths of 0.1 millimeters are too long for the eye to register.


    it in C is imprecise.



    支持原题C正确。

    作者: wingkim    时间: 2005-12-27 11:37

    the question is not about "sb. take sometime to do sth.",but "sth take sb. sometime to do".


    In the latter,it just like a passive,and the subject is the object of the verb.


    So,how can we not to omit "it".


    If we do not omit "it",how about sth and "it" to the verb.

    作者: vicomte    时间: 2006-4-6 16:30
    应该省略it，took这个动作的发出者就是the army，it took。。。to complete it就说不通了
    作者: seastone    时间: 2006-5-6 05:03

    支持C

    作者: evita_zhang    时间: 2006-5-16 14:26

    看一下OG183. 

    183. Archaeologists in Ireland believe that a recently discovered chalice, which dates from the eighth century, was probably buried to keep from being stolen by invaders.

    (A)  to keep from

    (B)  to keep it from

    (C)  to avoid

    (D)  in order that it would avoid

    (E)   in order to keep from

    In choice A, the phrase/row being stolen lacks the necessary noun or pronoun that specifies what it is that might be stolen. Choice B is best because it provides the pronoun it, which refers to chalice. Like choice A, choices C and E lack the pronoun. D is wordy and awkward in its use of the passive voice. Moreover, avoid is used imprecisely in C and D because it illogically suggests that the chalice is acting to prevent its own theft.

    如果被动不合理，加入代词是GMAT语法认可的做法。而比较好的说法是It took somebody some time to do sth.，所以B也有合理的地方。

    作者: gonghao    时间: 2006-5-16 23:08

    Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
            

    B是正确的

    主语：the army 【of terra-cotta warriors 】

    定语：created to protect Qin Shi Huang

    定语中Qin Shi Huang的同谓语： China’s first emperor

    状语：in his afterlife

    谓语: is more than

    took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it 中的it指代的是the army

    因为主语离的太远了，宾语不加很难理解意思。

    另外两句并列句，属于主语一致，

    作者: 大怪物    时间: 2006-6-19 06:32
    以下是引用gonghao在2006-5-16 23:08:00的发言：

    Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
      

    B是正确的

    主语：the army 【of terra-cotta warriors 】

    定语：created to protect Qin Shi Huang

    定语中Qin Shi Huang的同谓语： China’s first emperor

    状语：in his afterlife

    谓语: is more than

    took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it 中的it指代的是the army

    因为主语离的太远了，宾语不加很难理解意思。

    另外两句并列句，属于主语一致，

    定语肯定不是created to protect，定语应该是took

    作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2006-7-5 01:56
    以下是引用gonghao在2006-5-16 23:08:00的发言：

    Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
      

    B是正确的

    主语：the army 【of terra-cotta warriors 】

    定语：created to protect Qin Shi Huang

    定语中Qin Shi Huang的同谓语： China’s first emperor

    状语：in his afterlife

    谓语: is more than

    took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it 中的it指代的是the army

    因为主语离的太远了，宾语不加很难理解意思。

    另外两句并列句，属于主语一致，

    我同意，sth takes someboy sometime to complete it是完全符合语法的

    这里的it也不存在指代不清的问题

    作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2006-7-5 01:59
    以下是引用tobytao在2005-11-6 13:52:00的发言：

    支持C，不用it。

    LDOCE地complete中有这样的例句：

    The building took two years to complete.

    呵呵，难道GMAT语法与此有出入？


    这里因为主语很近，所以it省略了。 这句话如果不省略it也是对的，不能因为可以省略是对的就说不省略是错的
    作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2006-7-5 02:03
    以下是引用nirvana0211在2005-12-19 2:24:00的发言：

    看这道OG:

    234. The physical structure of the human eye enables it to sense light of wavelengths up to 0.0005 millimeters; infrared radiation, however, is invisible because its wavelength—0.1 millimeters—is too long to be registered by the eye.

    (A) infrared radiation, however, is invisible because its wavelength—0.1 millimeters—is too long to be registered by the eye

    (B) however, the wavelength of infrared radiation—0.1 millimeters—is too long to be registered by the eye making it invisible

    (C) infrared radiation, however, is invisible because its wavelength—0.1 millimeters—is too long for the eye to register it

    (D) however, because the wavelength of infrared radiation is 0.1 millimeters, it is too long for the eye to register and thus invisible

    (E) however, infrared radiation has a wavelength of 0.1 millimeters that is too long for the eye to register, thus making it invisible

    Choice A, the best answer, is clear, idiomatic, and grammatically correct. In B, the misplaced participial phrase making it invisible modifies eye rather than wavelength, thus producing a confusing statement that distorts the meaning. In C, D, and E the use of the second it is so imprecise as to be confusing. Furthermore, in D, and thus invisible incorrectly modifies wavelength rather than infrared radiation. Choice E produces an illogical statement by using a restrictive clause introduced by that where a comma followed by the nonrestrictive “which” is required: a wavelength of 0.1 millimeters that is too long nonsensically suggests that not all wavelengths of 0.1 millimeters are too long for the eye to register.

    it in C is imprecise.

    支持原题C正确。

    支持原题C正确。

    支持原题C正确。

    呵呵，今天我正好做大全也做到这道题。这里的it不行，不是因为语法不同，而是因为指代不清楚，因为这个it可以指infrared radiation也可以指wavelengh, 所以OG解释里面用了 E the use of the second it is so imprecise as to be confusing. 而并没有说E是unidiomatic。

    而OG11里面也清楚把这道题归纳为 考察Logical predication，我觉得也是指的这里。OG11里面说It is ambiguous and lacks a clear referent而并没有说it不应该出现在这里。


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    作者: anniya    时间: 2006-8-7 17:07
    以下是引用gonghao在2006-5-16 23:08:00的发言：

    Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it
      

    B是正确的

    主语：the army 【of terra-cotta warriors 】

    定语：created to protect Qin Shi Huang

    定语中Qin Shi Huang的同谓语： China’s first emperor

    状语：in his afterlife

    谓语: is more than

    took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete it 中的it指代的是the army

    因为主语离的太远了，宾语不加很难理解意思。

    另外两句并列句，属于主语一致，

    支持这个说法！

    我觉得多读几遍其义自现啊！多个it也很通顺！而且意思的表达更加清楚！

    作者: dicsnp    时间: 2006-8-11 12:10


    8月22日北京一战奋斗中！！！！！
    有一起的xdjm赶紧联系我啊~
    这一路我们会走得辛苦，但我相信，我们会走得更加幸福！

    怎么联系你呢？

    作者: floralelezz    时间: 2006-8-11 16:10
    以下是引用channing76在2005-3-19 16:22:00的发言：

    LZM 的书P97叶说明了不定式做逻辑宾语的情况：

    1。不定式的动词是及物的，后不能接宾语。I lent him a book to read.

    2。不定式的动词是不及物的，后面需用介词，不加宾语。

    can you find us some records to listen to?

    这样看来，complete是及物动词，我认为C正确。

    这里to complete是做逻辑宾语吗~~~~~~？？
    作者: floralelezz    时间: 2006-8-11 16:12

    真是茫然阿~~~~~

    为什么gwd有这么多有质疑的题目啊~~~好浪费时间啊~

    有哪位nn可以指点一下gwd是必选的复习材料吗？如果不是那除og以外在做那套题比较好呢？

    初来乍到~~~~~~拜托拜托~~~~~


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    作者: RichardTian    时间: 2006-8-12 07:43

    我也是最初选了C，因为句子主干就是：the army is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete (it).

    按理说it存在也是有道理的，不要it呢，也不能说错。

    作者: RichardTian    时间: 2006-8-12 07:44

    各位说的都有道理，但是考试要求我们只选一个答案，这可怎么办。

    作者: linda816    时间: 2006-10-3 01:23
    must be C！
    作者: zyzcdcdcd    时间: 2006-10-4 22:48
    c
    作者: wuwu717    时间: 2006-10-6 04:31

    Both B and C make sense.  But compare between B and C, I think B is more clear.


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    作者: cattsky    时间: 2006-10-8 21:51
    以下是引用tuzq在2005-2-12 21:50:00的发言：

    要是选B不选C,就没天理了。

    难道说：The cake took me 1 hour to complete it? 那我倒要问it指什么了。

    虽然是及物动词，也不一定要加it呀。比如：His voice is too low to hear. 难道要说His voice is too low to hear it?

    虽然选C,但是你误解了:这里的主语和it指代的不是一个东西
    作者: cattsky    时间: 2006-10-8 21:55
    以下是引用rhod在2004-6-30 23:11:00的发言：

    I stand firmly with you guys. See the following example from Longman:

    The building took two years to complete.

    有点怀疑?我还是偏向B

    你的例句中building本身就是被完成的对象;而在这题中,秦始皇是主语,完成的对象是兵马俑!

    作者: 晴天小狗    时间: 2006-10-20 15:41

    上帝保佑，多对了一道题...

    nnd！ 看讨论贴快要看死了

    作者: cccccc0    时间: 2006-12-5 16:02
    我也觉得是C~~~不加it也不会产生歧义(complete what?)，因为句子中只有兵马俑可以complete.在退一步说，B加了个it念起来好便扭o~~
    作者: ivypp    时间: 2006-12-7 20:02

    SUPPORT C~小声说一句：GWD的答案怎么这么垃圾

    作者: xxbc1    时间: 2006-12-19 15:28

    本题答案在此：

         GWD-18-Q17

    Rivaling the pyramids of Egypt or even the ancient cities of the Maya as an achievement, the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

    1. the army of terra-cotta warriors created to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife is more than 2,000 years old and took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete
    1. Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, was protected in his afterlife by an army of terra-cotta warriors that was created more than 2,000 years ago by 700,000 artisans who took more than 36 years to complete it
    2. it took 700,000 artisans more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors more than 2,000 years ago that would protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife
    3. more than 2,000 years ago, 700,000 artisans worked more than 36 years to create an army of terra-cotta warriors to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife
    4. more than 36 years were needed to complete the army of terra-cotta warriors that 700,000 artisans created 2,000 years ago to protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s first emperor, in his afterlife

    A the best


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    作者: barefootmarmot    时间: 2007-1-1 22:35
    支持C. it应该被省略。
    作者: aimit99    时间: 2007-1-3 22:58

    第一次做 GWD...I am totally confused by this standard answer B. C 明显就是符合语法规则,C突然多个it,我们却得为之解释是因为主语太远... 突然感觉这个考试还真无聊. 怪不得跟老外讲要考到700以上, 人家都睁大双眼看. 也许小女理解还不到家...哎, 俺就 以OG为本,OG为本.GWD为练习感觉... 


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    作者: aimit99    时间: 2007-1-3 23:03
    还有, 各位NN大侠们, 这GWD的答案都从哪里来的呀??究竟是否是标准答案...
    作者: charlotte606    时间: 2007-5-10 02:31

    I can not catch the reason that omit the "it". Would you tell me?

    作者: shero    时间: 2007-5-10 12:06
    以下是引用charlotte606在2007-5-10 2:31:00的发言：

    I can not catch the reason that omit the "it". Would you tell me?

    the army took 7000 artisans more than 36 years to complete

    or you can say：7000 artisans spend more than 36 years to complete the army

    since the subject of complete is obvious and clear, we need not use pronoun to mention the army again

    作者: jingoist2006    时间: 2007-10-21 02:24
    支持C
    作者: snowofjune    时间: 2007-12-24 08:21
    me 2
    作者: snowofjune    时间: 2007-12-24 08:32
    It's easy for you to say B is correct, and "it" cannot be omit after learning that B is the correct answer, but to be honest, if similar question, not the exactly the same one appear in the exam, I probably would choose C again!
    作者: itstime    时间: 2008-2-18 00:37
    看了6页的讨论，认为C正确。前面那个朗曼字典的例子有道理。去掉the army的修饰成分，原句就是这样：

    the army (of terra-cotta warriors created to
    protect Qin Shi Huang, China’s
    first emperor, in his afterlife) is more than 2,000 years old and
                took
    700,000 artisans more than 36 years to complete.

    "Is more than 2,000 years old" 只是一个并列的成分. and前后的主语都是the army. 所以，the army took....to comete "it", 这个it是多余的。不能因为前面修饰成分多导致complete离它的逻辑宾语远而加一个it.
    作者: KennyChenzju    时间: 2008-10-1 23:17
    以下是引用shero在2007-5-10 12:06:00的发言：

    the army took 7000 artisans more than 36 years to complete

    or you can say：7000 artisans spend more than 36 years to complete the army

    since the subject of complete is obvious and clear, we need not use pronoun to mention the army again


    同意shero的看法。

    查了一下，we took two years to complete it (the reviews or something else). 这里it不能省略。

    但这道题是the army took 7000 artisans 36 years to complete.没有必要用it指代做宾语，因为本身这里是take是主动表示被动

    作者: Ryan0222    时间: 2008-11-2 22:36
    本人弱弱的问一句，比如I took you half hour to help me可否视为跟题目相类似呢？但明显在这里me是不可以省略的，所以为什么答案B里的it要省略呢，请高人指点
    作者: starist    时间: 2009-7-29 14:57

    正确答案是C。详见OG12 SC 第61题。

    作者: Xclann    时间: 2009-7-29 17:41

    could anyone post OG12's explanation onto forum?

    thanks so much!!

    作者: 流浪的心    时间: 2010-9-6 15:41
    我想问一下

    逗号之后 the army....是不是没有谓语啊，我感觉都是定语，同位语，是不是说逗号之后根本不是一个句子啊。
    作者: 小卡车    时间: 2012-4-14 20:12
    the question is not about "sb. take sometime to do sth.",but "sth take sb. sometime to do".

    In the latter,it just like a passive,and the subject is the object of the verb.

    So,how can we not to omit "it".

    If we do not omit "it",how about sth and "it" to the verb.
    -- by 会员 wingkim (2005/12/27 11:37:00)



    虽然可能已经很多年了，但讲得很好。thanks!



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