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作者: SunnyBean    时间: 2004-6-24 05:58
标题: OG15

15. In his research paper, Dr. Frosh, medical director of the Payne Whitney Clinic, distinguishes mood swings. which may be violent without their being grounded in mental disease, from genuine manic-depressive psychosis.


(A) mood swings, which may be violent without their being grounded in mental disease, from genuine manic-depressive psychosis


(B) mood swings, perhaps violent without being grounded in mental disease, and genuine manic-depressive psychosis ,


(C)between mood swings, which may be violent without being grounded in mental disease, and genuine manic-depressive psychosis


(D) between mood swings, perhaps violent without being grounded in mental disease, from genuine manic-depressive psychosis


(E)  genuine manic-depressive psychosis and mood swings, which may be violent without being grounded in mental disease


The best choice is C because it uses the idiomatically correct expression distinguishes between x and y and because it provides a structure in which the relative clause beginning which may be violent clearly modifies mood swings. The other choices use distinguishes in unidiomatic constructions. Additionally, their in A is intrusive and unnecessary, and the modifier of mood swings in B and D (perhaps violent) is awkward and less clear than the more developed clause which may be violent.



答案C没有问题。我的问题可能有些愚蠢。就是E为什么不可以,似乎改变结构以后,which修饰mood swings有歧义吗? 活着说字少的要放在前面?谢谢!


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-6-24 06:17

distinguish between A and B,其中between不能少,E的致命错误;

which的指代不明,如你所言,另一个错误。

字多字少不是关键问题,关键在于结构是否合理,修饰是否明确。


作者: bon    时间: 2004-6-24 06:26

which的指代还是明确的,a and b,which结构,which 修饰b


作者: rt316    时间: 2004-6-24 07:19
以下是引用bon在2004-6-24 6:26:00的发言:

which的指代还是明确的,a and b,which结构,which 修饰b



如果是distinguish between A and B, which,这个which指代B比较明确,而distinguish A and B, which,这个which后如果没有逻辑或主谓暗示,完全可能指代A and B,因为这里的A and B不纳入distinguish的区分范围,仅仅相当于distinguish sth - 辨别出sth
作者: SunnyBean    时间: 2004-6-24 08:00

一不留神已经有两位哥哥回答了。谢谢了。

stoneren gg 所指的“distinguish between A and B,其中between不能少,E的致命错误“的问题,我担心我考试时真会犯这样的错误。明明知道还当看不见,要命。

另外,有关which 的解释让我很明白了。将来看到这样的题目的时候可能不会在错了。但是自己写的时候就保不住了。记住了。

谢谢!


作者: hanson_luo    时间: 2004-7-19 15:26
我想问一个词,这里的be grounded in 什么意思?
作者: ippohsu    时间: 2004-7-22 20:46
be based on...
作者: moonphone    时间: 2005-6-23 15:42

精辟!感谢诸位大人.


作者: vivian_smile99    时间: 2005-8-19 11:50
我的问题都一一解决了,谢~~~
作者: brissa    时间: 2005-9-29 11:41
以下是引用hanson_luo在2004-7-19 15:26:00的发言:
我想问一个词,这里的be grounded in 什么意思?


有没有人想过:without being grounded为什么要用被动进行态呢?
作者: zhuer    时间: 2005-9-29 13:01
以下是引用brissa在2005-9-29 11:41:00的发言:


有没有人想过:without being grounded为什么要用被动进行态呢?

当然用这个时态了。without  doing sth是固定用法,它的被动就是without being done。


作者: seraphblue    时间: 2005-10-13 07:41

这么说A去掉their也是正确的表达吧。


作者: simeonshi    时间: 2005-11-8 23:28
以下是引用seraphblue在2005-10-13 7:41:00的发言:

这么说A去掉their也是正确的表达吧。


A 是 distinguish mood swings from geniune ... 根据longman


1 [intransitive and transitive]
to recognize and understand the difference between two or more things or people
distinguish between
His attorney argued that Cope could not distinguish between right and wrong.
distinguish somebody/something from
a method of distinguishing cancer cells from normal tissue
2 [transitive not in progressive]
to be the thing that makes someone or something different or special
distinguish somebody/something from
The factor that distinguishes this company from the competition is customer


这里应该是1的解释,但是distinguish x from y 重要的一点是 x 应该属于 y


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作者: nuj_am    时间: 2006-1-14 18:06
以下是引用simeonshi在2005-11-8 23:28:00的发言:


A 是 distinguish mood swings from geniune ... 根据longman


1 [intransitive and transitive]
to recognize and understand the difference between two or more things or people
distinguish between
His attorney argued that Cope could not distinguish between right and wrong.
distinguish somebody/something from
a method of distinguishing cancer cells from normal tissue
2 [transitive not in progressive]
to be the thing that makes someone or something different or special
distinguish somebody/something from
The factor that distinguishes this company from the competition is customer


这里应该是1的解释,但是distinguish x from y 重要的一点是 x 应该属于 y



不对吧,老兄,x应该不属于y的,我们平时说的distinguish good from evil/ distinguish right from wrong都是这样啊


作者: ProfCPA    时间: 2006-6-8 23:39
以下是引用nuj_am在2006-1-14 18:06:00的发言:

不对吧,老兄,x应该不属于y的,我们平时说的distinguish good from evil/ distinguish right from wrong都是这样啊

x may or may not belongs to y.

1. Distinguish her from her classmates.

2. Disinguish the male birds from the femal ones


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作者: snowfield    时间: 2006-7-3 14:17

从longman字典的解释看不出distinguish btw 和distinguish ... from...的差别来,美国传统词典则只有distinguish ... from..地用法,看来distinguish between x and y有时一条gmat家规了。


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作者: lanyuqi    时间: 2006-9-30 17:04
以下是引用rt316在2004-6-24 7:19:00的发言:


如果是distinguish between A and B, which,这个which指代B比较明确,而distinguish A and B, which,这个which后如果没有逻辑或主谓暗示,完全可能指代A and B,因为这里的A and B不纳入distinguish的区分范围,仅仅相当于distinguish sth - 辨别出sth

顶一下,OG27题与此知识点类似.  选项B 有可能产生歧义,Who修饰Chandler Owen 还是A.Philip 呢!


作者: lanyuqi    时间: 2006-9-30 17:27

without 的用法是without与后面的名词或是动名词中间不能有任何的插入词如their,any等等都是不可以的.


作者: chanmidy    时间: 2006-11-11 23:38

可是XDF老师的笔记里说有distinguish A from B啊

是他讲错了?/


作者: 卡卡元    时间: 2006-12-18 14:12
继续问两个用法的区别
作者: aborigin    时间: 2007-3-11 13:53
以下是引用lanyuqi在2006-9-30 17:27:00的发言:

without 的用法是without与后面的名词或是动名词中间不能有任何的插入词如their,any等等都是不可以的.

这是OG在解释57题的原话
In B, the active verb has shifted suggests that the light, not the motion, is the agency of action, but such a construction leaves the phrase by the rapid motion of the galaxy away from the Earth without  any logical or grammatical function.


作者: alexandre7    时间: 2007-4-17 09:59
dfsdf
作者: piaolf123    时间: 2008-11-23 22:59

without 的用法是without与后面的名词或是动名词中间不能有任何的插入词如their,any等等都是不可以的.

应该是without+doing的用法更为准确些


作者: jingjing6688    时间: 2009-2-7 19:19
以下是引用bon在2004-6-24 6:26:00的发言:

which的指代还是明确的,a and b,which结构,which 修饰b

我觉得有疑义,在上XDF的时候老师说过,"n,which v"句型,which可以跳跃修饰,为什么此处which只修饰b呢?也可以修饰a吧?


作者: nancyhearste    时间: 2010-8-11 02:07
个人观点:
这里必须用which可能还与后面的without being grounded有关。without being grounded里有being,则violent前面也应该有be动词,否则就有些不对称;同时being grounded也与其被修饰语mood swings之间的关系不紧密,导致unclear。而且,介词短语with直接放到形容词violent后面修饰它很awkward

补充: 现在GMAC好像并没有那么的强调distinguish的用法了,OG12-51题中竟然直接用distinguish discrete sounds and words,中间并没有between。在OG12中,GMAC好像改变了很多规则,而且一些出题也没有那么的严密了,在OG11的基础上放宽了很多。




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